Sunday, July 4, 2010

Local horse traders targeted by animal rights Web site

Jason Miller on the J-O-B!!
Thomas Paines Corner;

Friday, July 2, 2010

Fort Scott Tribune
By Michael Pommier

FORT SCOTT, Kan. -- A local horse trading operation has become the focus of animal cruelty allegations, but the company under scrutiny says there's no basis for the group's concerns.

Tucker Brothers, LLC, has been targeted by the animal rights Web site Thomas Paine's Corner ( for the alleged neglect and starvation of horses on their farm located a few miles south of Fort Scott.

Jason Miller, senior editor and founder of Thomas Paine's Corner, said the content posted on the Web site was provided to him by "anonymous individuals" who claim to have witnessed the mistreatment.

Raymond Tucker, owner of Tucker Brothers, LLC, said the allegations are false. He did say that he has thin horses on his property which consists of about 1,000 acres of pasture. He said the horses were thin when he bought them, noting that the economy has caused many people to sell or auction their horses because they can no longer afford to keep them. In addition to buying horses, Tucker added, many people will bring "sorry" horses to his property and leave them there.

"I buy sorry horses and a lot of people bring sorry horses out here and dump them out," Tucker said. "It's the economics of the thing, people are just getting rid of their horses in a mass exodus right now.

"We don't mistreat them, you can't find a hotshot in my barn ... whenever we load horses, we load them on goose-necks, we don't use semi trailers."

Further allegations against Tucker are that he does not provide sufficient food or water for the horses on his farm. Tucker said the horses that are too thin to be shipped to buyers get "turned out" or sent to pasture. and they graze his 1,000 acres of live creeks, ponds, and grass that is "belly deep."

"They have plenty of water, plenty of grass," he said. "Nobody is beating on one, nobody is mistreating one ... no matter how sorry they are.

"If I kick (a horse) out to pasture ... (it) gets a chance to fatten up ... They either fatten up or they die ... that's just the cold hard reality of life."

Tucker has also been alleged to ship horses to slaughter houses in Mexico or Canada. Tucker said he sends about 100 horses each week to a buyer in El Paso, Texas, who then decides whether to sell the horse or sent it to a slaughter house in Mexico.

"I don't sell directly to slaughter houses, but a lot of them end up there," Tucker said.

Although he does not send the horses to slaughter houses, Tucker believes that slaughter houses being outlawed in the United States was a bad idea and blames the "tree-hugging liberal do-gooders" for the action. He said before it was outlawed, horses rarely had to be transported more than 400 miles to be slaughtered, now they travel well over 1,000 miles.

"Since they quit killing horses in the United States, why that (the lengthy trip) is the worst thing that ever happened to a horse," he said.

Tucker had been contacted by Miller for the first time Thursday during a one-hour long telephone conversation. As a result of the conversation, Tucker invited Miller, who he described as "completely ignorant," to tour the farm and see all the horses Saturday evening.

"I want to go down there and take a look ... I'm concerned based on some pictures," Miller said. "I'm not quite sure what I'm going to find when I get there."

Tucker added, "There is nothing secretive, nothing mysterious -- we just buy and sell horses."

Bourbon County Sheriff Ron Gray said that he is currently investigating the allegations and has made contacts with state officials. He said that with the holiday weekend a response from the state is not expected until sometime next week.

Thomas Paine's Corner was founded in 2005 by Miller to promote the belief that the oppression and exploitation in the world is rooted in the way society and culture treat animals.

"It's pretty multi-dimensional, but we tend to focus mostly on an animal rights agenda ... but it is anti-oppression, anti-exploitation in general," Miller said.

If Jerry's Horse Could Talk Today

by Jerry Finch (Habitat for Horses) July 4th, 2010

If my horse were to give an Independence Day Speech before Congress, this is what he would say:

I do not know why you have asked me to speak here today, nor do I understand what object you have asked me to represent in the celebration of your Independence Day. You celebrate freedom and justice, reflected in your Declaration of Independence, but that paper does not apply to me, or to any other animal that shares this earth with you.

For your sake, I am pleased that you have reached such high levels of freedom. Would that sole document reflect your outlook for horses as for humans, I would be first to celebrate with you. Sadly, such is not the case, for horses are not included, nor are the safeties and securities granted to you held in common with those of us who have helped you build this great nation. This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. As you celebrate, I must mourn for the loss of millions of my kind to your lust for power and money.

To halter me, tie a lead rope on me and pull me into this magnificent hall to speak of your freedom is once again a sample of your inhumane treatment and a mockery to the justice of which you are so proud. You, who have thrown the bodies of dead horses in stacks that reach to the heavens, ask one of us to tell you of the glories of America? I think not.

For it is not your joy I hear, nor the fireworks booming in the skies. I hear the cry of millions of my kind, tied in backyards, stuck in dark, wet stalls, left unfed and unloved. I hear the plaintive moan of those being trucked thousands of miles to face a horrible death at your hands. As I look out at you, I see them and what you have allowed to happen to them in your name.

On your Independence Day, the future of my kind looks far darker than ever before. Far worse than the conduct of those who occupied these seats in the years before you came, those of you who presently sit within this majestic hall now conduct yourselves with an arrogance that is both revolting and hideous. You have tied yourselves to the pockets of those who profit from the suffering of my kind, you make false statements on their behalf and refuse to represent those constituents whose vote brought you into this once hollowed hall of honor.

I do not stand before you as the honored guest, representing the triumphant battles for freedom I fought with you. I do not stand as your partner in memory of or great history together as we conquered nations, fought our way to the west, plowed fields and fed millions with our combined labor. I will not, for I now know, as do those citizens who call me their friends, what you truly think of my kind. You who occupy these seats have trampled upon the Constitution for the right to pocket pieces of gold. You refuse to represent the horses of this nation when we turned to you. You have made fun, ridiculed and ignored those citizens you represent as they have pleaded our case before you, and for that I can say nothing positive about you, the system you represent or the freedoms you allegedly vowed to protect.

Do I need to stand before you and argue that the slaughter of horses is wrong? That point is past. It is conceded and acknowledged in private and only disputed in public by the repetitious lies of those who profit from your murderous ways. Do I need to show you the truth behind the lies? They are known and open for you, if you are of the mind to look beyond the hands of those who give you money for your next reelection effort. Do I need to tell you of those citizens whom you allegedly represent who want you to stop the slaughter? Look at your call logs, your emails, your fax machines.

Am I to tell you that it is wrong to have us stolen from our loved humans, to be beaten with sticks, shocked, transported without rest or water, shoved into kill chutes, terrorized and injured by captive bolts or guns, hung by our legs while we are still alive and sold by the pound when we are dead? There is not a man among you who would suffer to the point of death as we do, yet you deny us the right to be free from this horror.

What then is your argument, that you have a divine right to our death? That your interpretation of dominion gives you a reason to kill us for the dollars it places in your pockets? Is that indeed your concept of God's will? If that is your God, then those humans who love us are not a part of your world.

Those days of intellectual debates are a thing of the past. You do not need to hear the arguments, nor do you need to see the light. Instead, you will feel the thunder, stand in the storm and be burned by the firestorm you created, for those humans that support our freedom are aroused and your hypocrisy toward the honor of your Constitution will bring your downfall.

Do not ask me to celebrate with you, for I am not free. I am your slave, to be destroyed at your whim. Only when you grant the right of the American people to turn their beliefs into laws that stop the insane practice of horse slaughter will I be able to stand before you in honor.

Habitat for Horses, Inc.
PO Box 213
Hitchcock, TX 77563

Thursday, July 1, 2010

Horses in Pennsylvania that Need Rescue NOT Killbuyer / Broker Owned


Free and Cheap Horses in Pa that need intervention. Any rescues in PA that will help save these horses BEFORE they wind up at New Holland Meat Market Auction or in the the killbuyers hands, or would you prefer to buy straight from the killers, help to enrich them and pay the inflated price?

From craigslist, Lancaster, Pa area;

Project horse - $150 (Oxford)

Date: 2010-06-29, 4:32PM EDT
Reply to:

Awesome project horse ready to start your way. 3 yr old mare no bad habits. NO BROKERS OR DEALERS SORRY!! Please e-mail for more information.

•Location: Oxford
PostingID: 1817747086

Companion Horse - $200 (Mt Joy)

Date: 2010-06-29, 8:04AM EDT
Reply to:

Wonderful, sweet 22 year old Morgan mare has artritis in her pasterns and can't be ridden. An occasional pony ride for the kids would be possible. Great pasture pet or companion. easy to handle, catch, no vices, gentle on other horses, very lovable. She is sterile, can't be bred. Picture is four years old, before her arthritis set in. Good feet otherwise, goes barefoot. Healthy easy keeper.

•Location: Mt Joy
PostingID: 1816793430


Two More Here; Owner Desperate to Place Two Horses by August

Lovely 3yr Old Quarter-Paint Riding Mare $750

Cindy has had 3 months of training under saddle this spring. She needs someone to finish her and she will make a wonderful riding horse and companion.
She has a great calm temperment.
(717) 808-6794

•Location: Kinzers, PA
PostingID: 1814784419