Wednesday, December 29, 2010

The Dope on Slaughter-Summit Speaker: JD Alexander






J.D. Alexander, a cattleman from Pilger, Nebraska, owns Alexander Cattle & Farms, a 2,000 acre corn/soybean/alfalfa farm that markets approximately 15,000 head of cattle per year. He has owned Alexander Cattle & Farms since 1984. Also Vice-President of the National Cattlemens Beef Association; http://www.beef.org/

Alexander is a 1975 graduate of South Dakota State University with a B.S. in Agricultural Economics. While at SDSU, he was a member of the Jackrabbit football team from 1971 to 1974, and served as Captain in 1974. Between 1975 and 1984, Alexander held two positions with FMC Corporation Ag Chemicals Division: he was a Sales Representative in North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota and Nebraska from 1975 to 1980, and he was a Sales Manager in Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana from 1980 to 1984.

The 1990's was a busy decade for Alexander. He participated in NCA's Young Cattlemen's Conference in 1991; served on the Cattlemen's Beef Promotion and Research Board from 1992 to 1998; served on the Domestic Marketing Subcommittee from 1993 to 1994; was Administrative Subcommittee Vice Chairman in 1995 and Administrative Subcommittee Chairman from 1996 to 1998. He also served on the Executive Committee from 1996 to 1998, as well as the Joint Beef Industry Nominating Committee in 1998.

Alexander served as President of the Nebraska Cattlemen in 2001, and was a member of the National Beef Industry Planning Group from 2000 to 2001. In addition, he has participated in several foreign trade missions, as well as foreign study travel seminars in Belgium, East and West Germany, Russia and Poland with the Nebraska LEAD program. He is Past President of the Wisner-Pilger Community Schools Foundation, Past Executive Board member of the Nebraska Cattlemen Board of Directors, and has served on numerous NCBA Committees as well. He is currently serving as NCBA Vice-President and he serves on the Nebraska Beef Council. In addition, he serves as Bank Director for both Midwest Banks in Pierce, Nebraska and United Republic Bank in Omaha. In 2001 J.D. was elected to the Nebraska Hall of Agricultural Achievement.

Alexander and his wife, Debra, have two children: Joshua and Kesa. Like their parents, they are both graduates of South Dakota State University. Joshua and his family recently returned to Nebraska to be part of the cattle operation. Kesa resides in Omaha.

Also, as VP of the National Cattlemens Associaition, see here as you read down once you open this link, what they want to do with our Nations Wild Equines; http://www.beefusa.org/NEWSCattlemensCapitolConcerns-February4201040147.aspx


Friday, December 24, 2010

Missing Mules

Browsing around the web today I came across an interesting post on NEERS site,....looking at a message from a gal named Tamara that placed a mule named Danny with us a few years ago. Apparently Tamara has turned to NEER for help in finding Danny, since we adopted him out under contact with one other mule named Honey, and the adoptor broke contract, moved away and we lost track of the mules. This info has been up on our QARR website ever since that time, and we have personally spoken with Tamara about the situation and, by the way, HAVE NEVER given her bad info with regards to our contact info. Our address and telephone number, which she has ALWAYS had, has NEVER changed;

Taken from NEERS website on their "Chris Jubic / QARR Bashing Page; http://www.newenglandequinerescues.com/chrisjubicqarr.htm

Update December 2010:

Tamara wants her mule back...

From: t g
Date: 12/3/2010 11:30:52 PM
To: fatoldfarmwife@verizon.net
Subject: mules in Ny "Chris"


The buckskin mule gelding Chris said would have a great home and if she
could not keep him i would take him back .she only took him for a companion
for the jenny mule " honey. I am Danny's owner and wold like to know where
he is. please let we know. As Chris's number and address is wrong she gave
me, Thanks

From: Beth :)
Subject: Re: mules in Ny "Chris"
To: "t g"
Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 9:07 AM

Chris JUBIC????

From: t g
Date: 12/4/2010 12:16:15 PM
To: Beth

Subject: Re: mules in Ny "Chris"

Yes it was chris JUBIC out of NY. do you know where he is and if he is okay
i raised him from a baby.i don't want to see him at auction.

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From our website re: the mules;

MULES MISSING

Last year we adopted out two mules to a couple from HARTFORD, NY, who
called themselves "LONG-EARRED EXPRESS". The two individuals are
named GERTRUDE "Gerty" PANCUSHEK (aka Karen?) and her partner,
STEVEN WOODELL. They adopted the two mules under written contract
and we have just recently found out that THEY SOLD THEM! All attempts to
reach them have failed. We are in the process of commencing a case against them
in the Hartford, NY small claims court, - but will have to FIND them first! .

ANYONE knowing or having information about the whereabouts of these PEOPLE
or the MULES , please contact us. .

Below are some pics of the two mules. "Honey" the mule's name was changed to "Jolene." Honey is a chestnut molly mule (said to possibly be a "hinny.") approximately 8yrs old and stands about 14.2. Honey has a few 'white-hair" scars around the pressure areas where she was used in harness. I believe you can see one in the pic, on her right rear flank. She also has one on the left at the base of her neck. The other mule is a smaller buckskin "quarter-type" pony-mule, a gelding, approx 12HH......his name was Danny, approximately 12 yrs old. . He had "bad feet" in front (pidgon-toed) and a cancerous (?) mole on his rump, both were supposed to have been corrected by the adoptees, but we doubt this was done..

Below: Honey on left, Danny on right






PLEASE if you know anything we would greatly appreciate your sharing,...we
really just want the mules back, or at least, to know that they are safe in a good
home and stand no chance of being abused, neglected or sent to slaughter.....THANKS!

-------------Guess Tamara dosent know that NEER is good for losing track of its animals also, as for example, the FOUR horses QARR turned over to them in March of 2008 that NEER cannot and/or will not tell anyone where they are or how they are; http://mulekist.webs.com/ourqarrbashingcleo.htm

and of course, there is the case of "Blaze," a horse bailed out from a killbuyers lot by the FOBs and turned over to Beth Hill Ross of NEER who somehow lost track of him. Again,...placed and/or given away with NO CONTRACT



From NEERs own website;

Ed Debatista/'AnCarm Farm and Benji's Barn' New Ipswich NH.
Julie LeDonne/Former Barn Manager, W Newbury MA.

UPDATE: We have finally been notified that Blaze is deceased. ):

NEER sent an older horse named Blaze, pulled from Camelot (with funds
raised mostly by the Friends of Barbaro) to Ed Batista (AnCarm Farm
in New Ipswich NH), with Julie LeDonne/Jewel's Farm, of West Newbury
MA as his barn help. At the time NEER was boarding a horse with Julie,
and trusted her to oversee Blaze. After a falling out with Julie (and
therefore Ed), communication became very sketchy, and we have
been unable to get any info on Blaze for over a year. Additionally
Blaze's former (and legal) owner who was horrified that Blaze ended
up at Camelot, was unable to get any info. Unfortunately, everybody
was friends back then, no written contract...lesson learned. So we have
no legal claim, but we do have proof of the 'transaction'. We did have a
connection to the farm for a while, but it has since been severed by a
bad check. We have made at least 2 calls to the NHSPCA to try to find
Blaze, as well as other sources to possibly check up on him.
We would just like to know that Blaze is ok and being taken care of.

Thursday, December 16, 2010

"Voice of the Horse" Says "Dont Go"

Or, "Excuses from EWA"
In regards to the upcoming Summit, received in my in-box today;

Hi, CJ. I hope you are doing well.

You do realize that by attending, they are giving Wallis money to further their cause? They do not want to hear the truth that will prove they are wrong or they would have invited someone from the equine advocacy groups or scientific community to speak. They do not want to hear the studies that prove there is no correlation between neglect and slaughter. They do not want to hear the truth that US horses are not safe for human consumption. The people attending are the cause of horses going to slaughter. We do have a few people attending but even if they are allowed to ask questions or make comments, they will not be heard. You already know what the outcome of the meeting will be. It will be nothing we haven’t heard over the past many years. Why would you want to raise the attendance numbers and give credence to the meeting? It is a bunch of horse haters that profit from horse slaughter and nothing will change their minds. They are a very small voice of the $39B horse industry. Their voice is worth 3 cents on every $100 earned.

Nothing coming out of that meeting is going to change the fact that our horses are not raised as food animals. There is no getting around the drug regulations. For them to have a slaughter plant, they need a national passport system and a mechanism to remove horses from the food chain that have received substances banned by the FDA and EU and they need a market. Unless they are planning on shutting down the racing industry and not using horses for work, service or performing, what horses will they slaughter? Virtually all horses in the US are wormed and receive bute at some point in their life. How many people do you know that have herds of horses standing around in a pasture doing nothing else but eating and waiting to go to slaughter? All wild equidae meat, except zebra meat is prohibited by the EU so their grand plan of slaughtering our Mustangs is not going to happen unless they plan on painting black and white stripes on the wild horses and burros. The wild ones in holding have all been wormed and those with injuries have been treated with bute.

There is nothing on their agenda to discuss the drug issue and that speaks volumes. They don’t want facts. They want to continue repeating the same ol lies they’ve been spewing for years. They have never listened to the truth and they are certainly not going to listen to opposing views at their meeting. They are in control and with no speakers that oppose their view, audience comments will be limited and given no credibility. They even have a session on how to get around and protect themselves against us “radical, tree hugging, vegan activists”.

I would prefer that people give money to Animals’ Angels to continue their investigations or advocacy groups that are trying to change things and/or helping horses. Instead of buying a ticket to Vegas, buy a ticket to DC and meet with legislators to get the horse protection bills passed.

If they wanted to listen to the facts, slaughter would have ended years ago.

Vicki | A Voice for Our Horses


Reply |Mule Kist to vicki
show details 8:07 AM (0 minutes ago)

Vicki, Look at it like this: If rescuers can give $$$ to the KBs to save some horses, why not $$$ to the pros to have our voices heard? After all this is a one time deal, not a business relationship with them....worth it to some to have an anti-slaughter presense there to counteract the BS at the very least. Who cares what the pros do or do not want to hear? It is the undecided ones sitting on the fence and yes, they will be there too. I know we have "heard it all before" but this truley is a unique and "historic" event as is the "1st annual" and there will be more to come if we dont take measures to counter act. It is just the same as when I was encouraging everyone to join the AHC to even out the scales a little on the anti-slaughter side....how can we ever expect them to change if we dont "get in there" with them and "devide and conquor" them?
Vicki all this stuff you are telling me in (this email) we already know, so you are preaching to the choir here. This is the type of factual info we need to fling back at them in the Summit. We must make them hear truth whether it does any good or not....some will see through the BS and at the very least we will be able to say that we were there for the horses to be their TRUE voice that day...

Agree with our going or not,....people are already asking "Where TF are our leaders in this?" So you may want to say something to them in your next article as to why no one from EWA is attending....I think all the mother orgs who have chosen not to go owe the rest of the advocates that...

The pro-slaughters organizations will go on with or without our "one-time" funding them by way of registration fees,...and I DO give to Animal Angels and other worthy orgs but that shouldnt stop me from doing other things,...and I DONT put ANY faith in our legislators for they ALL are a bunch of liars, crooks and thieves. I thought you and your Org would have realized this by now. None of those bills are no good for the horses anyhow. They were all created to give the pro-slaughters and wild horse haters what they want and YOU are supporting them (and the continued death of our horses) by supporting and believing in their phoney bills).

Thanks for caring and am sharing this email with groups.

CJ
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Taking a STAND for the horses in Las Vegas

by Brogan Horton on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 10:35am

As many of you have heard, January 3rd-6th will be a sad day for horses. There is a conference in Las Vegas at the South Point Casino called, “The Summit of the Horse Conference”. This conference is a meeting of the biggest pro-slaughter heads in the country. The event organizer is Sue Wallis, the very same Sue Wallis who thinks that horses, domestic and wild alike, should be slaughtered and be fed to our children in schools and colleges. They are going to discuss, "How to deal with UNWANTED feral horses", "How to restore slaughter in the USA" and " How to deal with unwanted and abandoned horses".... a few guest speakers include:

-The BLM's Chief Bob Abbey
-Dave Catoor- Sue Wallis- Wyoming
-Ike Sankey – Joliet, Montana
-Sankey Pro Rodeo – PRCA stock contractor
-Larry Johnson, Nevada Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife and former member of BLM Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Committee
-Arlen Washines, Yakama Nations
-Frank Bowman, Illinois Horse Council
-Katherine Minthorn Good Luck, Umatilla, Inter tribal AgricultureCouncil & Northwest Tribal Horse Coalition
-Jason Smith, Warm Springs Tribe
-Tim Amlaw, American Humane
-Temple Grandin & Mark Deesing from Grandin Livestock Systems
-Joey Astling, USDA/APHIS Slaughter Horse Regulation
-Jennifer Woods – Humane Handling and Assessment Tool Project
-Bill DesBarres, Horse Welfare Alliance of Canada
-Chris Gould, Canada, World Breeding Federation of Sport Horses
-Manuel Sada, Criadores de Caballos Deportivos Mexicanos AC, Mexico

It’s basically a giant conference of horse killers.... the BLM (our government, who is paid with OUR tax dollars) is now saying slaughter is a the only reasonable means of disposal for the "Mass"abundance of wild horses.

We have an incredible opportunity to make a HUGE difference in Las Vegas!

SHARK has SO generously donated the use of their "TIGER truck", a truck with 4 HUGE TV screen's surrounding it playing looped video. We will drive around downtown Las Vegas, showing the general public images of what they are REALLY talking about inside the summit meeting. Driving back and forth in front of the Casino, in front of the pro-slaughter people walking in and out... Imagine the impact, and attention this would bring to our cause! To be able to EXPOSE the truth to the general public, RIGHT in Sue Wallis' face!!! The look on her face will be priceless, and worth EVERY PENNY!

We are in need of funding to RUN the truck! It needs to be driven from Chicago to Vegas for the Event

- The truck runs on diesel- The screens run on a gasoline generator

We need your help to make this happen!! This is our CHANCE to stand up for the horses in the faces of those who oppose us!

Please donate the following to help:

We need: Frequent flyer miles to get our volunteers to and from the event- Gas cards to run the truck and get it from A- B

Any donation can be made to:
Paypal- cowgirl101786@yahoo.com

(please include a mailing address foryour tax write-off receipt)

Mail Check or Money Order to: (Gas cards can be mailed to the same address)
Animal Rescue Unit P.O Box 50 North Bridgton Maine 04057

We need to stand together, to be the voice for the horses, for their future!

Brogan Horton
President & Lead Investigator
Animal Rescue Unit
Phone (207) 939-7852
Fax (207) 647-3798
http://www.animalrescueunit.com/
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Please also know that there is plans for peaceful protests and demonstations outside of the South Point Casino, and all are welcome to come to Vegas on Jan. 3rd thru 6th to join the "Friends of Equines FOES of Equine Slaughter" folks who will be there protesting the event. Contact Chris Jubic at MuleKist@Gmail.Com for more info on the demos.

Also, any anti-horse slaughter advocates who may wish to go to the Summit and partake in the question and answer period can do so by registering at the "reduced" rate of $100 by signing in as a Sponsor of Friends of Equines, as we have already bought a table in order to have our anti-horse slaughter voices heard. Here is the link to the "Pro-Slaughter Summit" if you want to register to go;

http://www.united-horsemen.org/summit-of-the-horse/registration-housing/

Hope to see you there, inside or out. Thanks for caring!

Tuesday, December 14, 2010

Friends of Equines to Attend Horse Slaughter Summit - You Can Too!

FRIENDS OF EQUINES has paid the $500 vig to Sponsor YOUR PLACE at the table for FULL PARTICIPATION in the Pro-Slaughters "Summit of the Horse" - Calling all Anti-Horse-Slaughter Advocates to Attend - Register Today Under FRIENDS OF EQUINES for only $100 and HAVE YOUR ANTI-HORSE SLAUGHTER VOICE HEARD!!!!! Price goes up tomorrow so be sure and register today!
Register here under "Sponsoring Org" (Friends of Equines) for $100; http://www.united-horsemen.org/summit-of-the-horse/registration-housing/

Price goes up to $200 tomorrow. Important to REGISTER TODAY!
Tell your friends,....Tell THE MOTHER ORGS! They can get in on the cheap but must register TODAY!!!

Monday, December 13, 2010

Calling All Pro-Slaughter "Rescues" - "The Load" Wants You on Her PayRoll

United Horsemen Fronting Looking for Rescues to Work With;

Hello.....

We have sent out an email to all the "Known Rescues" we can find asking them to become part of our Rescue/Rejuvination Prgram. Satellite Rescues in our program will be eligible for funding and all horses adopted from these rescues will be eligible for show incentive money and our Rescue Horse-Horse shows.

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Bloggers note:

And the equines that are found to be "beyond rescue" will be humanely euthanized by injection and their dead carcasses sold to the nearest rendering plant? Think "NOT." They will be sent off alive to slaughter with a bolt driven through their head. The owners make mo money that way, but an animal has to be alive to sell to slaughter. Sue Wallis and her "United Horsemen Fronting" aint about whats best for the horse, but about whats best for the owner, and what profits them the most.

RAY CHARLES could see that!


The Daily Load: Sue Wallis Extends Invitation to Equine Rescues / Advocates to Attend Summit...




That is, IF they can behave themselves...

Dear ,

In tonight's Summit of the Horse Blog we share a positive and a negative.

First, we have been honored and had our hearts warmed by a number of horse rescue owners who have sought us out to thank us for our work in providing a necessary option for horse owners.

As our President, Dave Duquette says, "No one really cares to think about horses getting processed. The reality is many horses are suffering far worse lives and deaths than a quick, humane death could ever be. Please help us help them through our realistic system that will end unnecessary suffering." To that end, we are issuing an open invitation to other rescues and equine programs who agree with our pragmatic approach to work with us to help as many horses as possible find new purposes and new homes...and to ensure proper humane handling for those where such a fate is not possible.

In regards to the second post, it is probably no secret to anyone who has been involved in horse issues in recent times that there are so-called horse "advocates," some of whom are vicious and unprincipled who continue to lie, twist the truth, and attack individuals rather then engage in any kind of reasoned civil discourse. Being at ground zero of many of those attacks I long ago came up with a standard procedure:
If the message contains a direct threat of violence it gets immediately sent to the FBI who maintains a file specifically for this purpose.

If the message engages in name-calling or disrespectful language the sender is immediately placed on my "blocked" list so that I never have to be subjected to abuse from that particular source again.

If the message maintains at least a minimum of decorum, but is opposed to what we are doing, I respond respectfully with the logic and reasons behind our various positions...this is the way that we can come to a better place.
Civility matters, and we will tolerate no less.

For this reason, and because we became aware of an effort to organize a protest of our Summit, we have established the following policy:


Protests and/or disruptive behavior inside the Summit room will not be tolerated-anyone creating or participating in such disruptions will be immediately escorted out by security and all registration dues or other funds will be forfeited.

Everyone is welcome at the Summit of the Horse, and welcome to express their opinion so long as they are respectful of other participants and decorum is maintained. There will be disagreements, of course, but that does not mean that we have to be disagreeable.


As friends pointed us towards this effort to disrupt the Summit, it lead us to cold hard proof of what we have suspected all along. These groups which feed on misinformation and emotional scare tactics are engaging in absolutely blatant fraud by encouraging their supporters to look up the zip codes in an elected officials district and claim to live there sending many multiples of the same message, and vowing to make thousands of phone calls using fraudulent addresses and names. Classic astroturfing--an artificial manufactured political movement designed to give the appearance of grass roots activism.

Needless to say, we have informed Congress and the Administration and the Agencies of this travesty with the firm suggestion that they ignore any and all such mass campaigns.

Both posts--our sincere invitation to Rescues, and the proof of fraud--are below, and on the Summit of the Horse Blog.

Sue Wallis, Vice President
United Horsemen, and
Breeder of Quarter-Horses

Saturday, December 11, 2010

sUE wALLIS'S "Daily Load"

Hello Cowpokes
and Poke'ettes In today's Summit of the Horse blog we share a very scary encounter with an animal rights terrorist who is being allowed to incite violence against animal owners, restaurants, anywhere animals or animal products are used. This terrorist is able to recruit openly at college campuses. The message here is that animal rights terrorists are alive, well, free, walking amongst us and inciting violence against you and your family.

Secondly, we share a visual image that points out dramatically that there is no such thing as a vegan. Human beings always have, and always will use animal products--it is the natural order of the way the world works that is embraced by every major religion, our lasting traditions and philosophies. The whole animal rights agenda is dangerous, morally and ethically corrupt.

Animal rights terrorists and Mother Nature are cruel. As responsible and caring animal owners we don't have to be...it is our moral duty to ensure that the animals we own or manage are well cared for, and that when we use them, or harvest them, that they are honored and respected, and that they are handled in humane ways.


Sue Wallis, Vice President
United Horsemen

a 501c3 educational and charitable nonprofit devoted to the well-being of horses and horse people

Last Chance for "Equine Advocate Professionals" to Register for Sue Wallis's "Horse-Slaughter Fest"

Contact:
Sue Wallis
Vice President, United Horsemen

(307) 680-8515
sue.wallis52@gmail.com


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

FIVE DAYS LEFT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EARLY REGISTRATION FOR THE SUMMIT OF THE HORSE


CHEYENNE, Wyo...United Horsemen, a 501(c)(3) educational and charitable organization devoted to the well being of horses and horse people seeking to implement humane and realistic solutions to the excess horse problem, is hosting the first Summit of the Horse event to be held Jan. 3-6, 2011 in Las Vegas at the South Point Hotel, Casino & Spa.

The event is an effort to gather horse men and women with federal, state, tribal, and private land resource managers, conservationists and ranchers in a forum to address concerns about the sustainability and health of land; horses, both domestic and wild; native wildlife and the horseback culture and economy.

The complete Program & Schedule, information on an illustrious slate of more than 45 Featured Speakers from all corners of the horse and resource management world, Register, Sponsor or arrange a Booth, are all available online at http://United-Horsemen.org/Summit-of-the-Horse.

Until December 15th early registration rates are as follows: Horse industry professionals -- $175; Sponsoring organizations (horse, conservation, wildlife, resource management-) -- $500 and includes registration for first two members; $100 for each additional member from the same organization; $300 for all other full participation. When early registration ends all categories will be increased by $100.

The South Point Hotel is offering Summit participants deluxe rooms at the rate of $50 plus tax per night. To book your room online and receive the group rate use the code: HOR0111.

To arrange booth space and sponsorship opportunities, contact Dave Duquette at (541) 571-7588 and at info@unitedhorsmensfront.org

For more Summit event information, contact Sue Wallis at (307) 680-8515; Trace Bentley, Colorado Association of Conservation Districts, (970) 412-3386; or visit the Summit of the Horse website at http://www.summitofthehorse.com/.

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Friday, December 10, 2010

Journal of Animal Science: UnWanted Horse Report

Havent read this yet....so will reserve comments for now

http://jas.fass.org/cgi/reprint/88/12/4142

LifeSavers: An Invitation to Attend

Dear LifeSavers,

I would gladly donate $500 to your worthy Org if you could find your way clear to attend the Upcoming Horse-Slaughter Convention in Vegas next month to be our voice on the anti-horse slaughter side. I will even pay for the hotel room for the entite three days.
Please respond to Mulekist@gmail.com or ca...ll (518) 753 - 7791
Lifesavers Inc. -
www.wildhorserescue.org

Lifesavers Inc. - horse rescue rehab and retirment ranch - dedicated to saving abandoned - abused - neglected and slaughterbound horses - with our focus on mustangs

Thursday, December 9, 2010

Sue Wallis' Pro-Slaughter "Summit of the Horse" - Will Any Antis Show?

I put this question to a wild horse rescue in one of our western states:

Me: I wonder if anyone from this org will be attending Sue Wallis' 1st Annual "Summit of the Horse" next month?
Them: Nope. none of us are planning on attending...too much money, too far away, & too many horses to take care of. sigh.
Me: ‎...and none of the "Mother Orgs" will help us to organize?
Them: Contact them directly....vicki & john's emales are on EWA webpage...contact vivian at int'l fund for horses....shelley sawhook fromr AHDF in dc.....& whoever else....i haven't heard that anyone is going.
Me: I have and am putting the question to all of them. Too bad it didnt cross Madelene's mind to help us all organize for this thing.
Them: I talked to steven long of horseback magazine & he said that he didn't know of any one who was going, either.....
Me: Now dont you think that a god damn shame? Dont you think it is a golden opportunity to meet the oposition head on, point for point? Dont you think this event should be MANDATORY for our leaders on the anti-slaughter side, or am I the only one?
Them: Madeleine has too many things on her plate to think about organizing for the slaughter summit, me thinks....
Me: How long does it take to create a travel fund? Or make reservations at the Summit or rent a few rooms in Vegas for some of us that want to go but cant afford it....a couple of phone calls is all it would take. I too am very busy (as are we all) but I make SEVERAL calls a day "for the cause."
Them: Well, it seems silly for the advocates to have to pay $150 or whatever it is just to walk into the door. we'd be paying them to continue their slaughter fest.
Me: No. We would be paying to have our voice heard and to make them look like the fools they are,..in their own forum. Priceless, I would say.
Them: Madeleiine is only funding what madeleine is working on. i haven't seen her donate $$$$ to ANY other projects even for the horses. have you??? & i haven't seen her do much work with any of the other advocates, either....
Me: Its for THE HORSES. You still think its "not worth it" to be a voice for them in this important forum. What are waiting for? The slaughterhouses to open back up? Then what? You will HAVE no forum to debate them then.
Me: I heard she just helped Lifesavers rescue 100 wild horses that were on their way to slaughter....still...can we not multi-task when needed? That is the problem. Everyone is working on "their own thing." Lack of organization in the anti-slaughter camp is nothing new. Meanwhile, the pros are gaining ground and we are going to let this golden opportunity to intelligently debate with our opponents slip by? Think of the coverage it will get when we soundly round them out with the hard questions and the cold hard facts. I am so ashamed of our so called "leaders." NOW is a crutial time. I am about to give up on it myself. No unity of purpose.
Them: I figured that out. Earlier this week I had someone elude that we are supporting slaughter and it was very painful...I cannot even imagine it...
Me: We are letting it happen.OUR LEADERs are, I shud say

Wednesday, December 8, 2010

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Will "Americans Against Horse Slaughter" be Welcome at The First Annual Horse-Slaughter Convention?

...and will we ever know if someone dosent ask?

The Pro-Slaughter organizers are inviting ALL interested parties to participate; http://www.united-horsemen.org/summit-of-the-horse/summit-agenda/

Do you think any "Americans Against Horse Slaughter" will even bother to ask?

http://www.americansagainsthorseslaughter.com/

"Americans Against Horse Slaughter" need to call and see if they would be welcome at this "Summit of the Horse" Convention, and if so, will they make reservations to attend?

Sue Wallis
sue.wallis52@nullgmail.com
307 685 8248 ranch
307 680 8515 cell


Dave Duquette
info@nullunitedhorsemensfront.org

541 571 7588

*Booths are available for $500 which include 2 registrations for the Summit

Monday, December 6, 2010

Horse-Slaughter Summit / Day One

SUMMIT OF THE HORSE – PROGRAM

January 3rd – Monday

6:00 pm – Opening Reception – Trent Loos – Master of Ceremonies for the Summit of the Horse

Trent Loos is a farmer, rancher, and radio host with a special love for folks who lead the same life he has chosen. Trent is a sixth-generation resource provider, specializing in supplying seedstock to pork producers, and beef cattle. When he’s not busy cutting cattle, Trent’s passion is spreading the word about the many positive things in production agriculture, where it is “individuals, not the institutions, that make a difference.”

Announce winner of 2011 Dodge Truck from Chapman Dodge

January 4th – Tuesday

9:00 am – Welcome and Opening Remarks

John Falen, President of Public Lands Council & Tom Collins, Clark County, Nevada, Commissioner

9:30 am – Opening Keynote: The Politics of Land and Horses

U.S. Congressman Charlie Stenholm, Texas, (retired)

9:45-10:00 – Break

10:00 am – The Horsemen’s Forum – Necessary Steps to Restore Lost Value and Normal Markets

A discussion that includes a broad range of horse industry spokespersons representing horse marketing, top trainers in various disciplines, breeders, breed registries, and event organizations. Forum participants will give their brief answer to the question, “What are the most important things that need to be done to restore the horse industry in the United States?” This first round will be followed by questions and answers with the audience.

Dave Duquette – Hermiston, Oregon – working cow horse trainer

Frank Bowman – Springfield, Illinois – Horsemen’s Council of Illinois

Bill & Jann Parker, Billings, Montana – Billings Livestock Horse Sale

David Solum, Solum Brothers – Lamar, Missouri – breeder – production sale

Ted Robinson – Oakdale, California – cow horse trainer

Dennis Foster – Virginia – Master of Fox Hounds Assn

Johnny Zamrzla – California Horse Council – PRCA

Ike Sankey – Joliet, Montana – Sankey Pro Rodeo – PRCA stock contractor

Bob Loomis – Marietta, Oklahoma – NRHA trainer and breeder

Katherine Minthorn Good Luck – Pendleton, Oregon – Intertribal Agriculture Agency

Tyson Larson – Nebraska – rope horse trainer and Nebraska State Senator

12:00 Noon – Lunch Break

Afternoon Sessions: Healthy lands/Healthy Horses—Restoring ecological balance to federal lands, controlling excess and unwanted feral horses on state, tribal, and private lands.

1:30 pm – Bob Abbey, BLM Director – Sustainable & Realistic Solutions to Wild Horse & Burro Program

2:15 pm – Wild Horse Gathers and Issues Regarding Horse Welfare

Dr. Boyd Spratling, DVM and member of the BLM Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Committee

2:45-3:00 pm – Break

3:00 pm – The BLM situation

A forum of land management agencies, range specialists, equine specialists, wildlife conservationists, Western state policy makers, and domestic horse industry representatives discussing the current situation on the land, and effects on other users of federal lands, as well as market effects on the horse industry of BLM policies.

John Falen, President of Public Lands Council

Dean Bolstead, BLM wild horse program

Dave Catoor, horse gathering contractor

Steve Torbit, National Wildlife Federation

Larry Johnson, Nevada Sportsmen for Fish & Wildlife and former member of BLM Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Committee

4:00-4:15 pm – Break

4:15 pm – Unintended Consequences on State, Tribal, and Private Lands

Tribal leaders join with private land owners and state land managers to discuss the breadth and scope of devastation wrought by uncontrolled populations of feral horses not under the jurisdiction of the federal government. This forum includes a discussion of the unintended consequences that have resulted in the alarming increase of abandoned, neglected, and starving horses.

Arlen Washines, Yakama Nations

Frank Bowman, Illinois Horse Council

Katherine Minthorn Good Luck, Umatilla, Intertribal Agriculture Council & Northwest Tribal Horse Coalition

Jeri Dobrowski, AMillionHorses.com

Jason Smith, Warm Springs Tribe,

Wade Cox, Colorado rancher

6:00 pm – Evening Reception – The Equine Market Report

An informal discussion with those involved with horse sales and horse marketing from around the country hosted by Nancy Robinson, Vice President for Government and Industry Affairs, Livestock Marketing Association

January 5th – Wednesday

Morning Sessions: The U.S. Horse Industry—Protecting our horseback cultures and livelihoods

9 am – The International Animal Rights Agenda and what is Necessary to Counter Activist’s Tactics, Dennis Foster

Dennis Foster is the Executive Director of the Masters of Foxhounds Association in Virginia. A retired military intelligence officer, Dennis has become an internationally renowned expert on the radical agenda of animal rights organizations worldwide. Following Foster’s presentation, will be a panel discussion including those who have been on the front lines, such as horse owners who have been attacked by animal rights groups speaking from their experience. The objective will be to provide practical, hands-on advice and training on how to protect yourself and your way of life from radical extremist agendas.

Frank Bowman, Horsemen’s Council of Illinois

Mindy Patterson, American Federation of Animal Owners

Denissa Malott, Victim of HSUS abusive actions, and her ongoing effort for justice

Dave Duquette, United Horsemen, who continues to work closely with Denissa Malott and her ongoing battle

10:15 – 10:30 am – Break

10:30 am – Protecting our grazing & other rights— Karen Budd Falen, Wyoming

Attorney Karen Budd Falen has gathered data and conducted research which exposes the egregious misuse of Equal Access to Justice Act funds by environmental and animal rights groups, who have used federal taxpayer dollars to sue the federal government with the objective and end result being the taking of private property rights of animal owners and livestock producers. Her discussion will include straightforward advice on what rights we have as animal owners, and steps we all need to take to petition the government for redress of grievances—a constitutionally guaranteed right of every American citizen.

12:00 Noon – Lunch Break

Afternoon Sessions: Efforts underway to provide humane and economically viable options

1:30 pm – Dr. Temple Grandin – Humane Handling of Horses

2:30 pm – Efforts underway to provide humane and economically viable options

In spite of the economic devastation of the horse industry, efforts around the country are underway to bring humane and regulated horse processing back to the U.S. This forum will include those involved in enterprises already underway to build plants in Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, Wyoming and elsewhere.

Ed Butcher, Montana

Jason Smith, Warm Springs Tribe, Oregon

Sue Wallis, Wyoming

3:15-3:30 pm – Break

3:30 pm – Setting the high standard for humane processing of horses

Representatives from U.S. and Canadian animal science and humane livestock handling organizations, as well as federal and state livestock processing regulatory agencies discuss what is necessary for the humane processing of horses. This will include a presentation of the Equine Humane Handling and Assessment Project of the Horse Welfare Alliance of Canada.

Tim Amlaw, American Humane

Temple Grandin & Mark Deesing from Grandin Livestock Systems

Joey Astling, USDA/APHIS Slaughter Horse Regulation

Jennifer Woods – Humane Handling and Assessment Tool Project

4:30 pm – The international perspective

How the U.S. situation is affecting the Canadian and Mexican horse industry, as well as global impacts.

Bill desBarres, Horse Welfare Alliance of Canada

Chris Gould, Canada, World Breeding Federation of Sport Horses

Rob Leach, Australia, horse trainer familiar with feral horse and camel depredation problems in Australia

Manuel Sada, Criadores de Caballos Deportivos Mexicanos AC, Mexico

6:00 pm – Evening Reception – Canadian and United States Connections in the Equine Economy

Temple Grandin book signing

January 6th – Thursday Morning

8:30 am – Brian Sandoval, Governor of Nevada (or his designee)

9:00 am – U.S. Congressmen Doc Hastings, Washington, new Chairman of Natural Resources Committee

9:30 am – Gary Moyer – Board of Directors – National Conservation Districts

10:00 am – Steve Foglesong – National Cattlemen’s Beef Assn (NCBA) President

10:45 am – 11:00 am Break

11:00 am – G.B. Oliver – Executive Vice President, Paragon Foundation

The Paragon Foundation was founded on the idea that it is the responsibility of government to protect the rights of fellow Americans, as written in the Constitution, as well as the responsibility of every American to make sure the government remained true to its purpose. Understanding that knowledge is power, Mr. Oliver will wrap up the Summit of the Horse in a way that seeks to arm landowners, land managers, horse owners and horse industry professionals with the information and negotiating skills necessary to protect their property.

HorseMeat on The Menu at 1st Annual Summit of the Horse?




If Sue Wallis and Friends had their way, it would! Below is a message being sent round today to her Pro-Slaughter Constituants, from The Horse-Slaughter Queen herself;

Hello Suscribers,

For today's Summit of the Horse blog we are sharing a reprint of an article written by Dan Pandolfo, a horse breeder and cattle rancher from Northgate, Sask., who says eating horse meat is more respectful than waste or abuse. This was originally published in the Western Producer on September 23, 2010.

There are many perspectives on the problems in the horse industry today. Dan shares one that many of us share.

Our hope is to bring all of the various perspectives together at the Summit of the Horse in Las Vegas to discuss calmly and rationally what needs to be done to restore the horse industry. We will not tolerate protests and obstruction, but if you come to the table with respect and decorum, you will be welcomed. I hope that you can join us!





Sue Wallis, Vice President
United Horsemen

Article;

Available horse meat a modern reality

I am a Saskatchewan horse breeder and cattle rancher. I read your Aug. 26 article ( "Horse breeding industry faces crisis") with interest and an open mind, and I feel compelled to give a different perspective.

In regard to Betty Coulthard's problems and the emotions spawned by the reality of product demand, I agree that it is difficult to see young horses go to slaughter plants.

However, I feel the same way about a pen of nice fat steers or heifers or a favourite productive cow that has spent her time on earth doing what she was meant to do - turning the earth's grasses and grains into life-sustaining protein.

After all, the relationship between mankind and forage-consuming animals has existed for well over 1,000 years.

Ms. Coulthard's perspective could be suspect to a lot of breeders and horse owners and potential new industry players. Making a statement such as " you have to raise 100 horses to get two good ones" is self-defeating when it comes to getting the public and horse enthusiasts to spend hard-earned dollars on the product of a specific breeding program.

In my program, I think if I raise one poor animal in 10, then I need to correct the problem as quickly as possible. In fact, I have a sales production program that includes a guarantee of a horse's quality, given proper care and animal husbandry is in place in the prospective customer's facility.

The truth about the price of horses is multifaceted. Part of it relates to the PMU industry.Canadian PMU producers were persuaded by the buyer of their product to produce papered stock to eliminate the impression that they were raising horses destined for human consumption. Producers complied.

Supply and demand set the price on the horses, and producers had to sell them to the pleasure and performance horse industry to comply with their contract holder and their own association. The result: a massive number of papered horses of varying quality. It created a glut on the market.

Producing high quality sport horses is a tough game to play. Even the best bred prospects sometimes do not work out as well as intended.

This has left a sour taste in the mouths of many people who invested in PMU bred horses. A number of these horses work out well but a greater number prove to be a poor investment.


Good horses still bring good money. The same is true of all top quality products. And yes, it's true that the market does not bear as much fruit as it did 10 years ago. We are in recession and everyone is included, horse breeders and users alike.

At this time in our history, horses are a luxury. Supply and demand are the dominant factors in this world and probably always will be.

North Americans are foolish and wasteful. Apparently we are so rich that we can, because of an emotional misconception, afford to throw away one of the highest quality red meat sources in the world.

Horse meat is lower in fat and cholesterol than beef or bison. It has higher protein per gram and is also rich in trace elements.

In our culture, obesity is running rampant, causing all kinds of expensive and damaging health issues. Yet we think eating horse meat is a sin, while the rest of the world consumes more than four million horses per year and has lower obesity rates.

This is a ridiculous situation. We have people in our own country who struggle to feed their families a good balanced diet. At the same time we sell our horses to a few fully integrated horse meat market retailers for a fraction of what they are worth on the world market.

I have been told that a 1,200 pound horse, when processed, retails for an average of $ 2,750 per animal. If you figure a yield of 65 percent on the rail, the meat is worth $3.52 per lb.

I have also heard that in some European and Asian regions, the best cuts can sell for up to $40 per lb. Of course, those would be fed horses for a specific market but it nevertheless appears that horse meat is worth a premium to beef in a lot of countries.

We see horses sold in this country for a measly 20 to 40 cents per lb., all because there is no domestic demand.

Yet 4.6 million horses are consumed by humans every year in other countries and cultures. Are we to assume these cultures are ethically corrupt, uncivilized or less intelligent than North Americans are?

The animal rights people have been successful in shutting down the slaughter horse industry in the United States, making U.S. slaughter horses worthless. Integrated retailers are able to buy American horses for the cost of assembly and trucking.

It seems unbelievable, but the anti-slaughter groups and animal rights people are crushing the taxable economic activity of the horse industry. At the same time they are enabling the horse slaughter monopolies in Canada and Mexico to make bigger profits than ever.

Using horses to sustain human life is far more respectful of these animals than to let them starve or put them down and waste their remains.

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Bloggers Note: The asshole author said ONE thing right. The PMU Industry plays a HUGE part in the production of so many "un-wanted" horses.

Friday, December 3, 2010

HR 503 Not Worth Fighting For: Call for Operation Start Over

I have just been going over the latest version of HR 503, our "Anti-Horse Slaughter Bill (now S. 503 currently stalled in Committee) and after reading it, it suddenly dawned on me, this bill, as amended, does little to protect horses from slaughter....and sounds like the amendments could have been written by people of the likes of Sue Wallis. Read it and see what you think and Iwill get back to explaining why I think this bill is NO good and was written (same as the ROAM Act) to placate the anti-voters while at the same time allowing the pro-exactly what they want,....loopholes in the law that would allow the slaughter of our American Horses to Continue....

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-109hr503rh/pdf/BILLS-109hr503rh.pdf

It also makes the Secretary of Agriculture responsible for all unwanted horses and encumbers tax payers with the cost of reimbursment to the owners of same. They are asking for $5,000.000 to enact this bill....(another reason it will never pass) and I am wondering WHY should the Secretary be responsible for the owners "unwanted" horses? Why should the tax payers have to pay, and why cant they just make a simple bill that says NO AMRICAN EQUINES should be slaughtered and that the owners will be responsible for the proper and humane disposal of their unwanted ones? Provisions holding the owners accountable for their own just might help cut the over-breeding down. Isnt that exactly what is needed, and what we want?

It does reaffirm in the bill that horses are not traditional food animals and should be "protected" from slaughter....AND THAT is a very good thing we must NEVER lose track of, but, it turns out though, in the context of this bill, they mean "protection" only for some. There are loop-holes that will allow some to be slaughtered even for human consumption. Why cant they just come right out and say that the slaughter any American Equine any reason should be prohibited, across the board? If we recognize that horses (in America) are not food animals, why should we allow ANY of them to be slaughtered for any reason? Slaughter is a horror reserved for food chain animals ONLY....there is no other reason to kill an animal in that way except to consume its flesh. Slaughter is never and can never be humane under any conditions. There is NO SUCH THING AS HUMANE SLAUGHTER. Anyone who says there is is a fool.

Recognizing the importance of the horse in our history, the 106th Congress designated Dec 13th as The National Day of the Horse. (A day I am ashamed to say, that most equine advocates ignore)

Several years ago, Author of HR 503, Congressman Conyers, pushed a bill through that designated JAZZ as a National Treasure.....so why not for American Equines too? After all, its our American Equines that are tortured and killed, NOT any Jazz Musicians!

What is needed is a bill designating American Equines as National Treasures and Recognizing that they are not a food animal in the USA and PROHIBITING their slaughter anywhere for any reason, period. Its really is that simple....why do the politicians, even those who proport to be our supporters, why do they keep mucking it up, dragging it on and on?

Could it be because they are ALL, everyone of them to a number, a bunch of liars, and cheats and thieves who will promice us anything but do little or nothing in furtherance of our goals?
Ya'all know my feelings on that!

FIRE CONGRESS
OUTLAW PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS
PAYCUTS FOR ALL OF THEM
(THEY SHOULD WORK FOR FREE)
RE-VAMP THE ELECTORIAL SYSTEM
SO YOU DONT NEED A MILLION BUCKS TO RUN
FREE AIR TIME FOR ALL CANDIDATES,
ETC ETC, ETC.

REVOLUTION NOW!

Legislative BS & So Much for Their Support

Will all this legislative support, (over 180 politicians) how come we still cant pass our bill (S. 503)?

http://thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:1:./temp/~bdcgQb:@@@L&summ2=m&/home/LegislativeData.php

Some one sent it to Committee knowing it would stall there and die. It happens everytime. When the bill was first submitted, they could have held on to it or put it on the calander right way. All I wanna know is, who was responsible for sending it to Committee?

Furthermore, there are ways to get it out of Committee but no one seems to be working on that goal....

Sunday, November 21, 2010

Get a Load of This.....


Speaking of loads,....
A pal of Sue Wallis is asking all the Summit of the Horse people to send in this survey asking for removal of ALL horses and burros within 5 years. Please fill out question #1 and pick answer #1 no interference or #3 minimal management. DO NOT pick#2 that Sue Wallis is asking all her creepy pals to do. Also you can email the man who is asking everyone to tell them to remove all horses and say thanks Tony, but we didn't listen to you. We want the horses to stay. Here's his email: FiveMileRanch@gbis.com

Sheldon CCP Comment Form

http://www.fws.gov/pacific/planning/main/docs/NV/comments.cfm


Before including your address, telephone number, electronic mail address, or other personal identifying information in your comments, you should be aware that your entire comment (including your personal identifying information may be made publicly available at any time, so keep it nice.) Yeah, right.

WHATS NEXT? DOG-MEAT ON OUR TABLES?
WARNING: GRAPHIC DOG-SLAUGHTER PIC
Man tasting tail says, "Yummm, taste like horse."

Saturday, November 20, 2010

Politicians: Should We Care if We Piss Them Off?

There is an old argument rearing its head again in the anti-horse slaughter camp. Once again we are finding ourselves facing a critical time in the battle to get HR 503 (the anti-horse slaughter bill) passed, as Congress is getting ready to end this session in a couple of weeks, we are anxious to get our bill put up for a vote before it ends. The Action Alerts have been furiously flying about all across the internet, urging the advocates to bombard our legislators & The Speaker of the House with phone calls, emails, faxes and letters, asking them to help get HR 503 up for a vote right away. As usual, the dedicated advocates from all over the world responded to the call and commenced upon a vigorous emailing, faxing and telephone calling campaign. Just as its effects were beginning to take effect, word starts going round that some one or two of the advocates are complaining that we should not be "bothering" the speaker of the house and/or certain other named politicos, and likening our actions to "harassment" and accusing us of pissing the politicians off. They say that we are causing problems in their offices, jamming up fax machines and tying up telephone lines, and I have no doubt that it is true. ! In some cases, they have actually had to set up new telephone numbers and lines, just to handle all our calls!
Further evidence of the great work that we do when we all put our heads together for one purpose and one goal. So I cant understand whats up with those who are saying "dont bother this one" or "dont bother that one" crap? Have they totally lost their minds?


Who and/or what are they trying to protect? Some are even alleging that our "bothering" certain of the politicians and/or our "pissing them off" is COSTING us their support, thinking ("they" say) that we are a bunch of crazies and wackos that they dont want nothing to do with, and, it is further alleged, that by losing their support, we are COSTING the lives of more horses! Now what do we make of that POV?

In view of the conflicting messages, the advocates are now confused, and who can blame them? They see such conflicting messages as a division in our leadership. But the truth of the matter is that there can be no division of leadership simply because the anti-horse slaughter folk HAVE no real leadership or organization as a whole. There is no one individual, or group of individuals, nor any PACs or organization on a national level that could lay any legitimate claim to a leadership role for the movement as a whole. In any event, we are much too diverse a group as a whole to have any one person or org that could ever represent us all with our varying and diverse views. Yes we all want the same things: an end to horse-slaughter and an end to the BLMs cruel round-ups & proper management of our American Herds, but we all have different ideas on the best strategies to utilize in going about accomplishing these goals. There are those that go out into the streets and protest. There are those of us who would never do such a thing. There are those of us that write petitions and there are those of us who never sign. There are those of us who travel DC at every possible opportunity to talk to the politicians and advocate on the horses behalf. Then there are those that cant travel but wish they could. They will stay home and write letters, make calls, and send out faxes to have their own point of views and ideas heard. The anti-horse slaughter movement has ALWAYS been a collective effort embarked upon by the various individuals and groups as well as organizations, drawn of people from across all walks of life. No one person or org was ever or could ever claim to be a "leader," a "spearhead" or a "spokesperson" for us all, even those who have been "in the fight" the longest, or even those with "boots on the ground" or "in the trenches." All have their own ideas of just what are the best solutions or the best ways to go about effecting them. That is not to say that such diversion is a bad thing, in fact, generally, such diversion works to the betterment of the campaign on the whole, as it helps to foster discussion and debate which helps formulate new ideas. However, when that diversion causes confusion among the advocates and they dont know what to do, it is not a good thing. Everything comes to a standstill and it only adds to their exasperation and discouragement. That is why I feel this is an important issue to discuss at this time.

First off, let me express straight out my own personal feelings on the matter, and it is as simple as this; I do not think we should worry in the least little bit about pissing the politicos off, ANY of them,....and here's why: Our ability to anger or to frustrate them is the most powerful tool we have!


There are two kinds of ways to wage a war and/or work for change, and BOTH play an equally important role. There is the "polite" way and then there is the "not so" polite way (shall we say "the angry, mad or crazy" way?) Lets do. But to put it more succinctly,...there is "ask" and then there is "demand."

Those fighting the "polite" way I call "the negotiators." They meet with the big-whigs in Washington and have to be nice and prim and proper and mind their manners when they are begging and pleading and trying to reason with them. They never cuss or show their anger as they ask for consideration, and they almost never DEMAND the change they are seeking to effect, at least not in any sort of an angry, threatening or intimidating way." In law, we call this "Snots and Bugars" pleading. Now dont get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with this kind of campaigning, and is definitely needed if we are ever to realize our goals. Yes ANY movement needs "polite negotiators," but the "uncontrollable crazies" are also needed as well. Indeed these are the sort of warriors that the politicos are afraid of the most, simply because we are un-controlable, and if the "polite" warriors were smart, instead of attempting to silence us or dis-associate themselves from us, they should be using our collective craziness and anger as a bargaining chip or a leverage tool when going about hob-nobbing in the halls of Congress looking to get support for our bill. Bottom line is, there really is no controlling us and I think this is something that the polite warriors need to let the politicians know. What they need to be reminding them is that, if our emailing and calling campaigns are bothering them,....they themselves (the politicians, that is) can either (1) give us what we want or (2) issue a statement to us that they have heard our concerns and let us know what they intend to do (or not do) about it. If indeed we are "bothering" any of them, it should be they that let us know, not our fellow advocates. If it is true that "bothering" or "angering" the politicians is costing the movement support in the halls of congress, then so be it, but I doubt that this is true. If a politician supports our cause, he will not abandon it simply due to a few "crazies." On the other hand, if a politician does not want to support us but is afraid to come right out and say it, well there is a handy excuse for them to disassociate themselves from us. It is a convenient excuse for them, but we shouldnt let such things deter us from the mission at hand,..which is to BOMBARD the Politicios, EVERY ONE OF THEM,... consistantly,...with our pleas and demands.

I have always been of the mind that we should use every weapon available to us in any war that we are serious about winning . If we stuck to fighting only in a "polite" way, asking and pleading and trying to reason with them, all the while NOT wanting to or scared to "piss anybody off," then we are not using EVERY weapon available to us, and most certainly not our most powerful and effective ones. Anger is a gift and should be utilized in the most effective way, not suppressed. The most effective way to use our anger I think, would be to direct it toward those who are in the best position to bring about the change we are asking for, ...and that is clearly the politicians....so why hold back on anything? Why not "give it all we got?" Bombs away, I say. Upon each and every one of them. Spare NO ONE..not Pelosi, or Conyers, or Moran, no one with the power to give us what we want should be left out. NOW is the time to TURN UP the heat on everyone. Bombs away, I say! Hit 'em all! They WILL hear what you have to say. Dont let anybody misguide you or intimidate you into "lightning up" on any one of them.

AMERICAN HORSES ARE BEING TORTURED IN SLAUGHTER HOUSES IN CANADA AND MEXICO. IT WILL NEVER STOP. IT WILL NOT STOP UNTIL H.R.503 IS PASSED IN CONGRESS.....16 PEOPLE HOLD THE POWER TO MAKE IT STOP..WILL YOU CALL THEM PLEASE...IF THIS BILL IS NOT PASSED BY DECEMBER 9, HORSES WILL BE TRANSPORTED ACROSS OUR BORDERS TO DIE AGONIZING DEATHS - SHOT IN THEIR EYES, STABBED IN THE SPINE, IT WILL CONTINUE - THROUGHOUT ALL ETERNITY IF H.R. 503 IS NOT PASSED.......CALL OR FAX THESE 16 FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES NOW.....ASK THEM TO PLEASE VOTE YES ON H.R.503 IMMEDIATELY.

BOBBY SCOTT, CHAIRMAN, VIRGINIA, PHONE (202) 225-8351 FAX (202) 225-8354

PIER LUISI, PUERTO RICO, PHONE (202) 225-2615 Fax: (202) 225-2154 TOLL FREE (866) 266-6678

JERROLD NADLER, NEW YORK, PHONE (202)-225-5635

ZOE LOFGREN, CALIFORNIA, PHONE (202) 225-3816 FAX (202) 225-3317

MAXINE WATERS, CALIFORNIA, PHONE (323) 757-8900 Fax: (323) 757-9506

STEVE COHEN, TENNESSEE, PHONE (202) 225-3265Fax: (202) 225-5663

ANTHONY WEINER, NEW YORK, PHONE (202)-225-6616

MIKE QUIGLEY, ILLINOIS, PHONE (773)-267-5926 FAX: (773)-267-6583

TED DEUTCH, FLORIDA, PHONE (202)-225-3001

LOUIE GOHMERT, RANKING MEMBER, TEXAS, PHONE (202)-225-3035 FAX (202)-226-1230

BOB GOODLATTE, VIRGINIA, PHONE (202) 225-5431 FAX (202) 225-9681

DAN LUNGREN, CALIFORNIA, PHONE (202) 225-5716 FAX (202) 226-1298

RANDY FORBES, VIRGINIA, PHONE (202) 225 - 6365 FAX (202) 226 - 1170

THOMAS J ROONEY, FLORIDA, PHONE (202) 225-5792 FAX (202) 225-3132

SHEILA JACKSON LEE, TEXAS, PHONE (202) 225-3816 FAX (202) 225-3317

TED POE, TEXAS, PHONE, (202) 225-6565 (202) FAX (225)-5547 TOLL FREE (866) 425-6565

PLEASE ALSO CALL THESE POLITICIANS BELOW, They can help get the bill out of Committee and onto the floor for a vote;

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi; http://pelosi.house.gov/contact/write-or-phone-my-offices.shtml


Congressman John Conyers, author of the bill; http://conyers.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Home

Congressman Moran, a supporter of the bill; http://moran.house.gov/contact.shtml

Thank you advocates, for giving the battle your all, each in your own ways. Its not so important how we go about fighting it,...its the keeping on and not quitting that counts!
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"Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you get a lot of scum on top."
--Edward Abbey

"Those who profess to favor freedom, yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle... may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."

– Frederick Douglass, African-American abolitionist

Thursday, October 28, 2010

If Horses are Livestock......

How come they aint included in this USDA Interstate Transportation of Livestock Study,...huhhh????

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/InterstateLivestockMovements/

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Hoe-Down & Yard Sale at Double LL Rescue to Benefit Horses

Hi friends. I thought you might all like to check out the info on our up coming events at the horse rescue.
Hope to see you all there! Feel free to pass this on and cross post anywhere you like.
Happy Trails,
Shannon

Benefit Concert for Horse Rescue

Double L Stable Equine Rescue and Sanctuary
Presents

“The Dry Town Drifters”

Join us for an around the campfire feeling-
Enjoy and evening of live cowboy music in the upstairs of
One One One Restaurant & Lounge
Saturday October 23, 2010
8-10 p.m. $5 at the door.
Silent auction items from local artists, jewelers, and more.
For more info call (518)638-6929


A little background-
The trio is called the 'Dry Town Drifters'.
My husband Aaron Hahn has a background in music and is co-founder of the rescue with me. Aaron has been performing publicly for about 20 years. His background is in music composition. He was a member of a jazz group and has been a drum major. He attended Lebanon Valley College as a music major. He composes as well as plays. He has played an evening at Robert's Western World in Nashville. He is lead guitar and main vocals.
The bass player, Darrell MacDonald,has been playing base for almost 30 years. He played publicly with Little Texas, and in Lonesome Dove, a local band that toured the east coast.
The drummer, Rich Stiles, has been performing on percussion for about 30 years. He was in a jazz group during his college years at SUNY Cortland and played in the band 'Revolutions' at local venues during the late 80's and into the 90's. Rich has adopted a horse from us and is the proud owner of 5 equines including an ex-racer.
All 3 gentleman have background in country music.

Shannon Hahn
Double L Stable Equine Rescue and Sanctuary
Rescue- Rehab- Retirement- Sanctuary- Placement
Argyle,NY (518) 638-6929
wwww.doublelstableequinerescue.petfinder.org/
See also:
Barn Sale and Open House at Horse Rescue October 9-10, 2010 from 8 a.m-4p.m. stop by Double L Stable Equine Rescue and Sanctuary at 9 Tilford Rd. Argyle, NY 12809 for a big barn sale and open house. Come out and find some great deals on horse items and see our sanctuary horses. Looking for horse blankets? We have tons of them from $5-$15! Our barn sale is the same weekend as Argyle town wide yard sale weekend so make a trip out to the horse barn and make a day of it. For more info call Double L Stable Equine Rescue (518)638-6929

Tuesday, August 24, 2010

EASTERN EQUINE ENCEPHALITIS - USA (23): (MICHIGAN)

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A 3rd human case of the deadly Eastern equine encephalitis (EEE) was
confirmed Monday [23 Aug 2010] by the Michigan Department of
Community Health. EEE is a mosquito-borne [virus] disease spread like
the West Nile virus. Last week, 2 human cases were reported in
Kalamazoo County. Symptoms could include fever, headache, chills and nausea.

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this report, nor if this case is a fatal one.

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[see also:
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (22): (VA, MA) 20100820.2911
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (21): (GA) equine 20100819.2893
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (20): (FL), fatal 20100818.2871
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (19): (MI) equine, human susp. 20100817.2850
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (18): (MA) equine, human 20100816.2836
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (17): (FL) equine 20100815.2813
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (16): (MI) 20100814.2790
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (15): (FL) sentinel avian 20100810.2728
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (14): (FL), equine, sentinel
avian 20100807.2691
Eastern equine encephalitis, equine - USA (13) (FL, MA) 20100806.2675
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (12): (MA) 20100803.2620
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (11): (FL) fatal, human,
equine 20100731.2569
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (10): (MA, MI) 20100728.2529
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (09): (FL) fatal 20100723.2469
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (08): (LA) 20100716.2374
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (07): (FL) 20100715.2363
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (06): (FL, GA) 20100710.2312
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (05): (FL) 20100708.2274
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (04): (FL) 20100630.2178
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (03): (FL) 20100627.2146
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA (02): (FL) sentinel avian 20100623.2101
Eastern equine encephalitis - USA: (FL) 20100527.1755]
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Thursday, August 19, 2010

What is a "Kill-Buyer?"

“KILL-BUYERS” and “BUNCHER’S” are unscruplous people who act as middlemen for the $laughterhouses. These are the people that will outbid you at auction while you are trying to buy a cute little horse or pony for your granchild, these are the people that will answer FREE TO A GOOD HOME ads for your horse and will promice to provide a "forever loving home" to your beloved animal - and take him directly to $laughter. These are the people that CHOOSE to earn their living bringing horses, yes, even "good" horses, to $laughter as a way of life. They travel all over the country and keep 'kill-pens" or feedlots at various locations throughout the U.S., Canada & Mexico. These are the people that will keep seriously injured, sick and suffering horses alive that SHOULD BE, NEED TO BE euthanised RIGHT AWAY but keep them alive anyways and let them suffer because they know a horse must be alive and standing "on at least three legs" to go to $laughter. These are the people that realize and exploit the fact that there is a BIG demand abroad for horsemeat and BIG money to be made right here in the good ole' USA supplying that foreign demand. This list is by no means complete. Killbuyers are everywhere and could be living right next door to you! This is a list of the known killbuyers that have been identified through reliable sources. Avoid them like the plague they are!


This list is by no means complete. Killbuyers are everywhere and could be living right next door to you! This is a list of the known killbuyers that have been identified through reliable sources. Avoid them like the plague they are!

Terry Saulters-Texas
Trent Ward - TX
Charlie Carter - CO
MIKE MCBARRON - TX
Bill Richardson-Texas
IW Ward-Texas
Leroy Baker-OH
Jeron Gold-MI
Fred Bauer-Oh
Landfair Brothers-OH
Ron Andio-OH
Josh McKay-WV
Don Nickerson-NY - IP Addy: 74 . 32. 126. 203.
Arlow Kiehl-NY
Joe Simon-MN
Randy Musick-SD
Dennis Chavez-NM
Monte Clark
Dale Haley-IN
Jeff Smith-KS
Randy Smith-KS
Jason and Buck Ryan-KY
Jodie Ramey-KY
Anton Wald-LA
Richard Godbout-MN
Terry Lee Brooke-MO
Ole Olson, Meadow Valley Ranch, Elko, Nv.
Eggburt_OH
Jack Paluso-OR
Brian Moore-PA
Jack Reinert-SD - IP Addy: 12.154.2.254
Dennis Smebakken-SD
Harriman-WA
Chuck Walker-WA
Ted Kerst-WA
Les and Jack Ryan-WA
George Baker-OK
Monzerat Munoz-TX
BRENDA HEMPHILL, Maine
Manny Phelps-CA
Ryon Simon-MN
Danny Rice-KY
Don Wright-KY
Dale Gilbreath
Larry Gregory
Jack Guir
Dennis Kunz
Garry Morris
Charles Nielson
Bob Remmington
John White

Bob Wilcox, NY. : Will promice to provide your horses with "forever loving homes" and sells directly to slaughter.

Landfair Bros. SL Stables, Oh.

The Landfair Brothers attend the Sugarcreek, Oh auction. They also advertise in a little paper called "The Vender," that sits on a bench at the auction. He is listed on the list of licensed livestock dealers for the state of Ohio. He also uses the name SL stables. Ohio livestock dealer # for 2007 is 99. He has a brother that is also on the list of dealers. His brothers name is Donald E. Landfair 4899 E. Moreland Rd. Fredericksburg, Oh 44627 330-698-1363 Holems County, Oh.Livestock
dealer license No. for 2007 is 114.

Sunday, August 1, 2010

What is a GONGO?

"Government Operated Non-Governmental Organization"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GONGO
A misnomer?


The National Councel of State Legislators is an example of a "Govt' Operated" "Non-Governmental Organization" - http://unnecessaryevils.blogspot.com/2010/08/national-counsel-of-state-legislators.html

Who Lobbys in Congress on behalf of special interests...there ought to be a law!

National Counsel of State Legislators a NON-Governmental NPO?

ROFLAO; Should be ILLEGAL! How can an organization made up strictly of Politicians and Congressional Representatives be a "Non-Governmental" anything? http://www.ncsl.org/
See how far we have come from democracy and serving the will of the people over special interests?
Just another american disgrace,...like being "ok" with torture and "indefinate detention."

NCSL a Lobby Group? Is it Legal?

The National Counsel of State Legislators: What is it?
What the Ag & Energy Committte are up to; (Lobbying for)

Sunday, July 4, 2010

Local horse traders targeted by animal rights Web site

Jason Miller on the J-O-B!!
Thomas Paines Corner; http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com/


Friday, July 2, 2010

Fort Scott Tribune
By Michael Pommier
Herald-Tribune

FORT SCOTT, Kan. -- A local horse trading operation has become the focus of animal cruelty allegations, but the company under scrutiny says there's no basis for the group's concerns.

Tucker Brothers, LLC, has been targeted by the animal rights Web site Thomas Paine's Corner (www.thomaspainescorner.wordpress.com) for the alleged neglect and starvation of horses on their farm located a few miles south of Fort Scott.

Jason Miller, senior editor and founder of Thomas Paine's Corner, said the content posted on the Web site was provided to him by "anonymous individuals" who claim to have witnessed the mistreatment.

Raymond Tucker, owner of Tucker Brothers, LLC, said the allegations are false. He did say that he has thin horses on his property which consists of about 1,000 acres of pasture. He said the horses were thin when he bought them, noting that the economy has caused many people to sell or auction their horses because they can no longer afford to keep them. In addition to buying horses, Tucker added, many people will bring "sorry" horses to his property and leave them there.

"I buy sorry horses and a lot of people bring sorry horses out here and dump them out," Tucker said. "It's the economics of the thing, people are just getting rid of their horses in a mass exodus right now.

"We don't mistreat them, you can't find a hotshot in my barn ... whenever we load horses, we load them on goose-necks, we don't use semi trailers."

Further allegations against Tucker are that he does not provide sufficient food or water for the horses on his farm. Tucker said the horses that are too thin to be shipped to buyers get "turned out" or sent to pasture. and they graze his 1,000 acres of live creeks, ponds, and grass that is "belly deep."

"They have plenty of water, plenty of grass," he said. "Nobody is beating on one, nobody is mistreating one ... no matter how sorry they are.

"If I kick (a horse) out to pasture ... (it) gets a chance to fatten up ... They either fatten up or they die ... that's just the cold hard reality of life."

Tucker has also been alleged to ship horses to slaughter houses in Mexico or Canada. Tucker said he sends about 100 horses each week to a buyer in El Paso, Texas, who then decides whether to sell the horse or sent it to a slaughter house in Mexico.

"I don't sell directly to slaughter houses, but a lot of them end up there," Tucker said.

Although he does not send the horses to slaughter houses, Tucker believes that slaughter houses being outlawed in the United States was a bad idea and blames the "tree-hugging liberal do-gooders" for the action. He said before it was outlawed, horses rarely had to be transported more than 400 miles to be slaughtered, now they travel well over 1,000 miles.

"Since they quit killing horses in the United States, why that (the lengthy trip) is the worst thing that ever happened to a horse," he said.

Tucker had been contacted by Miller for the first time Thursday during a one-hour long telephone conversation. As a result of the conversation, Tucker invited Miller, who he described as "completely ignorant," to tour the farm and see all the horses Saturday evening.

"I want to go down there and take a look ... I'm concerned based on some pictures," Miller said. "I'm not quite sure what I'm going to find when I get there."

Tucker added, "There is nothing secretive, nothing mysterious -- we just buy and sell horses."

Bourbon County Sheriff Ron Gray said that he is currently investigating the allegations and has made contacts with state officials. He said that with the holiday weekend a response from the state is not expected until sometime next week.

Thomas Paine's Corner was founded in 2005 by Miller to promote the belief that the oppression and exploitation in the world is rooted in the way society and culture treat animals.

"It's pretty multi-dimensional, but we tend to focus mostly on an animal rights agenda ... but it is anti-oppression, anti-exploitation in general," Miller said.

If Jerry's Horse Could Talk Today

by Jerry Finch (Habitat for Horses) July 4th, 2010

If my horse were to give an Independence Day Speech before Congress, this is what he would say:


I do not know why you have asked me to speak here today, nor do I understand what object you have asked me to represent in the celebration of your Independence Day. You celebrate freedom and justice, reflected in your Declaration of Independence, but that paper does not apply to me, or to any other animal that shares this earth with you.

For your sake, I am pleased that you have reached such high levels of freedom. Would that sole document reflect your outlook for horses as for humans, I would be first to celebrate with you. Sadly, such is not the case, for horses are not included, nor are the safeties and securities granted to you held in common with those of us who have helped you build this great nation. This Fourth of July is yours, not mine. As you celebrate, I must mourn for the loss of millions of my kind to your lust for power and money.

To halter me, tie a lead rope on me and pull me into this magnificent hall to speak of your freedom is once again a sample of your inhumane treatment and a mockery to the justice of which you are so proud. You, who have thrown the bodies of dead horses in stacks that reach to the heavens, ask one of us to tell you of the glories of America? I think not.

For it is not your joy I hear, nor the fireworks booming in the skies. I hear the cry of millions of my kind, tied in backyards, stuck in dark, wet stalls, left unfed and unloved. I hear the plaintive moan of those being trucked thousands of miles to face a horrible death at your hands. As I look out at you, I see them and what you have allowed to happen to them in your name.

On your Independence Day, the future of my kind looks far darker than ever before. Far worse than the conduct of those who occupied these seats in the years before you came, those of you who presently sit within this majestic hall now conduct yourselves with an arrogance that is both revolting and hideous. You have tied yourselves to the pockets of those who profit from the suffering of my kind, you make false statements on their behalf and refuse to represent those constituents whose vote brought you into this once hollowed hall of honor.

I do not stand before you as the honored guest, representing the triumphant battles for freedom I fought with you. I do not stand as your partner in memory of or great history together as we conquered nations, fought our way to the west, plowed fields and fed millions with our combined labor. I will not, for I now know, as do those citizens who call me their friends, what you truly think of my kind. You who occupy these seats have trampled upon the Constitution for the right to pocket pieces of gold. You refuse to represent the horses of this nation when we turned to you. You have made fun, ridiculed and ignored those citizens you represent as they have pleaded our case before you, and for that I can say nothing positive about you, the system you represent or the freedoms you allegedly vowed to protect.

Do I need to stand before you and argue that the slaughter of horses is wrong? That point is past. It is conceded and acknowledged in private and only disputed in public by the repetitious lies of those who profit from your murderous ways. Do I need to show you the truth behind the lies? They are known and open for you, if you are of the mind to look beyond the hands of those who give you money for your next reelection effort. Do I need to tell you of those citizens whom you allegedly represent who want you to stop the slaughter? Look at your call logs, your emails, your fax machines.

Am I to tell you that it is wrong to have us stolen from our loved humans, to be beaten with sticks, shocked, transported without rest or water, shoved into kill chutes, terrorized and injured by captive bolts or guns, hung by our legs while we are still alive and sold by the pound when we are dead? There is not a man among you who would suffer to the point of death as we do, yet you deny us the right to be free from this horror.

What then is your argument, that you have a divine right to our death? That your interpretation of dominion gives you a reason to kill us for the dollars it places in your pockets? Is that indeed your concept of God's will? If that is your God, then those humans who love us are not a part of your world.

Those days of intellectual debates are a thing of the past. You do not need to hear the arguments, nor do you need to see the light. Instead, you will feel the thunder, stand in the storm and be burned by the firestorm you created, for those humans that support our freedom are aroused and your hypocrisy toward the honor of your Constitution will bring your downfall.

Do not ask me to celebrate with you, for I am not free. I am your slave, to be destroyed at your whim. Only when you grant the right of the American people to turn their beliefs into laws that stop the insane practice of horse slaughter will I be able to stand before you in honor.



Habitat for Horses, Inc.
PO Box 213
Hitchcock, TX 77563
409-935-0277

Thursday, July 1, 2010

Horses in Pennsylvania that Need Rescue NOT Killbuyer / Broker Owned

NO NEED TO DEAL WITH KILLBUYERS TO SAVE PENNSYLVANIA HORSES

Free and Cheap Horses in Pa that need intervention. Any rescues in PA that will help save these horses BEFORE they wind up at New Holland Meat Market Auction or in the the killbuyers hands, or would you prefer to buy straight from the killers, help to enrich them and pay the inflated price?

From craigslist, Lancaster, Pa area;

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Project horse - $150 (Oxford)


Date: 2010-06-29, 4:32PM EDT
Reply to: sale-6qate-1817747086@craigslist.org

Awesome project horse ready to start your way. 3 yr old mare no bad habits. NO BROKERS OR DEALERS SORRY!! Please e-mail for more information.

•Location: Oxford
PostingID: 1817747086

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Companion Horse - $200 (Mt Joy)

Date: 2010-06-29, 8:04AM EDT
Reply to: sale-eebfk-1816793430@craigslist.org



Wonderful, sweet 22 year old Morgan mare has artritis in her pasterns and can't be ridden. An occasional pony ride for the kids would be possible. Great pasture pet or companion. easy to handle, catch, no vices, gentle on other horses, very lovable. She is sterile, can't be bred. Picture is four years old, before her arthritis set in. Good feet otherwise, goes barefoot. Healthy easy keeper.

•Location: Mt Joy
PostingID: 1816793430

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Two More Here; Owner Desperate to Place Two Horses by August
http://lancaster.craigslist.org/grd/1810040903.html

Lovely 3yr Old Quarter-Paint Riding Mare $750



Cindy has had 3 months of training under saddle this spring. She needs someone to finish her and she will make a wonderful riding horse and companion.
She has a great calm temperment.
(717) 808-6794

•Location: Kinzers, PA
PostingID: 1814784419


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