Monday, March 16, 2009

"Slaughterhouse Sue" Wallis is Surley Wacked.....

Here is a letter from Slaughterhouse Sue (Wallis) the National Conference of State Legislatures Ag & Enery Committtee-member whos idea it was to petition Congress NOT to interfere with their individual right to slaughter their horses. Read below some of the incredible things she is accusing the anti-slaughter camp of! She is a beef farmer who claims to speak on behalf of all horse owners when she says;

Representative Sue Wallis

PO Box 71, Recluse, Wyoming 82725




Letter to the United States Congress, and to the State Legislatures



I am writing to ask you to avoid legislation that would further impact the private property rights of livestock owners, including horses, to market their animals, or to transport them for any purpose, including for their processing to be used for food. I am also asking you to work proactively on behalf of the equine industry to not only oppose these efforts, but to encourage positive industry efforts within the United States. This is a touchy and emotional problem for a lot of people, and passions ride very high. Below are my own words which I hope will help you understand our position, and in fact, the great majority of people who actually own and work with horses every day.


I suspect that you have, and will receive a wealth of information from animal rights organizations with varying agendas that will try and the prohibit the use of horses as food animals, and the transportation for the purpose of processing horses by inflaming passions, manipulating images, and fabricating atrocities in order to achieve their purposes. Some are well-meaning folks who love their horses, and consider them to be companion animals—others are radical vegans who are trying to eliminate all animal agriculture. What I hope to do is provide you with some common sense information based on facts that reflects the true nature of the problem, and especially how devastating economically, and socially, this has been to the admittedly small population of the country, like myself and my family and neighbors, who still make our living primarily from animal agriculture.


First, at the heart of it, horses are livestock—just like cattle, pigs, and chickens. (My note: This is a matter of opinion and the catagorization of any animal should be left up to the individual owners, not for the govt to decide) Since the dawn of time, horses have been an animal of many uses for humans, including food.(My note, a hard-ship food, do not forget) A few of us still make our living with them, use them to run our cattle operations, and have for generations. Ours is a small family ranch, we are a diversified operation, and our primary product is grassfat organically raised beef. My family has been in the livestock business for six generations, and currently my brother raises and trains registered Belgian and Haflinger horses. In the past we have run a stud bunch in our summer country with a registered Quarter Horse stallion and anywhere from 10 to 20 mares. By far the vast majority of those colts became useful, valuable saddle and performance horses, or breeding stock—a few of them did not—some were dangerous outlaws, some were born with defects, some were injured in ways that made them unsound for use. We never imagined that we would be denied the ability to market these animals for their salvage value. This is exactly like telling a dairy farmer that he can’t sell a cow for beef when she doesn’t breed, or is past the age of optimum production. (My note: One big major difference Sue forgets to mention, in the good ole USA, the horse is not a food animal. Even the USDA does not recognize equines as such...not yet anyways, and that is what we are fighting for, to keep equines off of the USDAs offical list of acceptable food chain animals.)


Like most people who live and work with horses every day, I am absolutely compassionate. (my note: obviously, not enough, for you care more about profitabilty than the suffering of animals) Those of us who have the ability to do so will generally allow those horses who have been with the family for a long time, to live out their old age in comfort, we call them “pensioners,” and then put them down as painlessly and stress free as possible when they begin to suffer. Many horse owners don’t have the luxury that we do. You can’t bury a 1200 lb horse in your back yard like you would a dog or a cat…and in many places, it is illegal to do so even if you do have the country and the equipment to bury them. (My note: So, lets work togther to fix that problem, there are workable solutions, you know!)


The loss of secondary markets with the closure of the last horse processing facilities in the US, which was brought about by extremely well financed animal rights campaigns in Texas and Illinois, has decimated our industry nation-wide. A horse that brought $5,000 a few years ago will not bring $2,000 today—(My note: and you are blaming the closing of the US plants on this? How absurd!) and that only if they are gentle, and trained. Those kind of horses generally go to people who have the resources to care for them, and to put them out of their misery when they are suffering. Unfortunately, there are many, many horses who will never be anybody’s pet. Most of the sale barns won’t even accept a horse these days unless they can sell them to somebody who will use them. If they are old, in poor condition, unrideable, or dangerous—and there are plenty of those, there are no alternatives. The auction barns are reporting that they can’t get any bids at all on brood mares, weanlings, and yearlings. Anyone with a horse trailer in the parking lot is likely to find strange horses tied to it and abandoned when they get ready to go home. The sale yards are having a serious problem with people just leaving horses in their pens.


We hear stories every day where horses are just dumped in somebody’s pasture—then it is your problem—you can’t take them to the sale, costs upwards of $300-$400 to put them down and dispose of them, the Humane Society of the United States won’t take them, the shelters are all full and out of money. Out here in the West, it is easy to just take them out to the desert and turn them loose, where people think that they will join the wild horses. In the first place, wild horses are vicious and brutal and have been known to seriously injure and kill strange horses. If they are lucky enough to be accepted by the wild bands, then we have even more of problem than we had before. Our brand inspectors report horses being taken out in the brush and shot, and having their brands skinned off of them so ownership can’t be traced. They found horses tied to a tree and left to starve. We recently received a report from the Wyoming Livestock Board that indicates that the number of abandoned horses that the State of Wyoming has had to deal with has doubled every year for the last two years, (My note: Can we see that report?) and where they used to be able to recoup their costs at the sale barn, now all the cost of feed and water while trying to determine ownership, and then euthanasia and disposal when they can’t, is just an extra burden on the taxpayer.


I know you may feel otherwise, and that is certainly your right, but I think it makes a lot of sense to use these excess horses for whatever good can be obtained (My note: You exploit them. Call it what it is Sue) The majority of cultures in the world eat horse meat, (My note: and that has what to do with US?) and appreciate it for its healthy nutritional quality, taste, and affordability. It was widely eaten here in the US during World War II. (My note: again, hardship) There was a lack of beef at that time…mostly because of misguided federal actions as a result of the Depression. One little known fact is that when the cattle markets failed in the 1930s, (My note: and who did you blame then for the colapse of your industry?) the government decided that it was because there were too many cattle—not because the economy was ruined and nobody had any money to buy food. So, they forced ranchers to sell their cattle to the government for $1 per head, and then they dug huge pits, drove the cattle in there, killed them and covered them with lye so nobody could use the meat. What a waste. One of the things that many wondered then, and those of us who know about it still wonder…is why they didn’t provide that meat to all of those people who were starving all over the country? Would have made a lot more sense. The end result was, when the War occurred, there wasn’t enough beef in the country to feed the troops.


My brother and his family lived in Sicily for two years, and horse meat was on most of the menus there. My son, a graduate student, just visited Finland this summer for a conference, and reported that the horse meat they served him there was much better than either the reindeer steak with lingon berries, or the plate full of little fish deep fried whole. (My note: So move to anyone of those countries if you must, to have your horsemeat, we would be GLAD to see you AND your brother go!) A recent news report from Iceland indicates that the frugal Icelanders, in the face of an economic downturn, are avoiding imported beers, and have doubled their purchases of horse meat, which is half of the price of beef. The fairly extensive Tongan population that lives in Salt Lake City prize horse meat, but finds it difficult to obtain. Tribes like the Apache seldom rode horses (My note: Excuse me?) and ate most that they caught (My note: hardship meat, again). The point is, attitudes about eating horse meat vary widely, and in my opinion, it is incredibly culturally arrogant of a small crowd (My note: Smal crowd? We are talking about the majorty of American people here, who are against horse slaughter!) of well-financed animal rights fanatics, with I suspect an ambition to make all of us vegans, to try and make everyone conform to their ideas. They are very good at sensationalism, the more drama they can create around exaggerated and manipulated stories, and outright fabrications, (My note: Who, what, where, when?) the more effective they are. What we are trying to do is combat that with old-fashioned common sense. I do hope we have a chance at fighting our way through the blizzard of half truths and outright incendiary rhetoric.


If you or any of your colleagues would like more information, please ask them to contact me, and I will be happy to supply them with accurate information including, among other things, a graduate student dissertation that examines the BLM horse problem in what I believe to be an objective and sensible light. Rather than keep more than 30,000 horses in corrals and feed them hay at taxpayer expense, wouldn’t it make more sense to have them processed and feed hungry people? (My note: The poor cant afford horsemeat. It is a LUXURY item.) Most of the horses running on public lands are not Spanish mustangs, they are remnants of farm and ranch horses turned out for good in the 1940s when they were no longer needed for haying teams. In the northeastern Nevada valley where my husband was raised, for instance, all the ranches are tucked up along the base of the mountains where the water is. When haying was over everybody turned their horses out on the flat, and they ran in the hills on the other side all winter, and watered at springs there. In the Spring, the whole valley would get together and gather the horses, they would brand the colts, geld the yearling stud colts, and start training the three-year old geldings by hooking them to a mowing machine with an old experienced horse. They would turn the mares and colts back out with the stud—which they changed every few years so that they didn’t have a sire breeding his daughters. Well, with the advent of tractors and modern machinery, they didn’t need those horses any more, and so nobody bothered to gather them. Now, here we are with way too many of what are really nothing more than inbred feral horses destroying the range on the public lands. (My note: and what about the privately owned cows gazing our public lands that outnumber the horses 200 to one? I wonder how many grazing permits ole' Slaughterhouse Sue holds for her grass-fed cows?)


Proponents of a ban on processing horses for food will claim that there is no market for horse meat in the United States, and that we should not be providing meat to foreign markets. A more accurate statement would be that most Americans do not eat horse meat. Since the vast majority of world cultures prize horse meat for its high nutritional quality and taste, and the United States is full of immigrants from those countries, there is, in fact a pretty good population who would purchase the meat if it was available. Since the closure of the last plant, we have, in fact, imported into the United States an increasing amount of horse meat from zero in 2003 and 2004, to over 500 metric tons in 2007. Most of that is going to zoo animals, because horse meat is the best commercially available meat for the diets of big cats. Some is going to ethnic markets. There is also a thriving global, export market for horse meat. This market will not disappear if US citizens are prohibited, it will merely shift to other sources, (My note: let it) and the end result being that the livestock owners of the United States are denied their right to a viable market. (My note: No un-necessary evils. The horse is not a food chain animal in the USA. Cant you leave it at that? Must we eat everything that moves? What will be next, our "unwanted" cats and dogs for sale to China, Japan, Korea and the like, where there is a BIG demand? Where do we draw the line?)


I sure don’t begrudge the people who are trying to raise money and rescue horses. Nor, do I object to those who are trying to work out alternatives, especially for horses that are people’s pets and who want to do the right thing by them. More power to them. But, it has become perfectly clear that there are far more horses than those outfits can possibly ever deal with, (My note: that is because the biggest breeders dont want to contribute one thin dime to help create alternatives to slaughter, nor do they want to get their breeding under control) and without a market, the problem will become much, much worse. The fact is that those people who do not want to sell their horses for slaughter, when faced with a dismal economy, and one in which they may be facing foreclosure on their home, because the recovery facilities are already full and overwhelmed, have very, very few alternatives.


It is interesting to note that in one sector of the equine industry, thoroughbred race horses, there is a very visible and public chasm between a few very wealthy, and very high profile owners on one side, and practically everyone who actually deals with the horses themselves—the breeders, trainers, and jockeys—who are universally in support of humane processing for unusable horses.


An organization calling themselves Animal’s Angels has been widely broadcasting video footage allegedly obtained from a covert operation at a horse processing plant in Mexico in 2006. Why is this footage just now being released? (My note: Because it took the USDA THREE YEARS to answer their FOIL request, duh. Do your homework Sue) And what, if any, extreme violations are being exposed? (My note: Jezis K Riste Sue, have even bothered to look at any of the 900 or so pics?) If you feel that the killing of animals for food is horrific, than of course, it is horrific—as someone who has butchered my own meat, I can tell you that the process is never pretty, and is always messy, (My note: forgot to mention, "NEVER Humane!") but can and should be done with care and respect for the animals. Again, horses have been and continue to be an excellent source of high quality food for the vast majority of humans on the globe. By legislating away any viable market for horses in the US, you are not going to prevent horses from being eaten, you are just going to create a horrendous continuing problem in the US, and destroy the livelihoods of horse people nationwide. (My note: If your livlihoods are destroyed, DO NOT blame the closing of the US slaughter plants. As you said yourself, American horses are being slaughtered in greater numbers than before, only by export to Canada & Mexico, so you still have your slaughter option. Get real. Educate yourself and you will see, your industry (beef & horses) is not the only industry failing in the US today. Open your eyes. Read the news. Watch some C-SPAN. Its happening to all industries and business. The bottom is falling out of our financial markets, so Blame the stinkin sinkin economy, not "Animal rights activists" for the state of the Nation today. .
Your anger is mis-directed. Get real. Get a life. Find a new line of business that works for you,...that is the beauty of us : American Resilancy! Perhaps there is a MickyD's or a Bugar-King hiring in your neighborhhod, hey, you would still be in your beloved meat business. You would make a good pattie-flipper, me thinks.

This same organization has acquired through a federal release of information effort a number of photographs, and have posted them along with a few reports of court actions concerning injuries and improperly transported horses at the Beltex plant. While they are trying to use the images of injured animals to claim that the processing itself is cruel and inhumane, as a person who has worked around large animals for my entire life, and after going through all of the documents which they have posted on websites, I have come to several conclusions: 1) the photographs have all been detached from the inspector’s reports which I presume is an effort to insinuate that injuries documented were the result of intentional abuse; 2) some of the horses were obviously injured in transit, this is regrettable, but the fact is that horses, just like humans and any other living animal can and do get injured—sometimes horrifically—anyone who has ever worked in an emergency room, or on a rescue to automobile accidents will testify that the long bones in legs are actually quite fragile. What little documentation was left with the photographs indicated that the inspectors were doing their job. They documented the incident and insured that the horse was put out of its misery as quickly as possible; 3) horses come with varying degrees of temperament, and varying degrees of human interaction, both positive and negative—I suspect that most of the injuries around horses heads were self inflicted by horses throwing a fit inside of a closed spaces like a horse trailer; 4) some of the horses had old injuries, which I presume meant that the owners were trying to salvage some bit of value out of the livestock—in cases where they were not able to put weight on all four feet, which is against the law, it was clear that the inspectors had not only documented the violation, but there was evidence that action had been taken against the shippers; 5) in a few cases, a shipment arrived at the plant with an animal down, and for no obvious reason—if it was still alive, the inspectors ordered them euthanized immediately…all in all, what I saw was evidence that the inspectors were doing their job.


Right now we can still ship horses to Canada and Mexico. If we lose these markets, too, then there is no hope. There have been horrific reports from Mexico, and some of that may be true, although many of us suspect that this, too, is being exaggerated and manipulated in order to forward an anti-slaughter agenda. So far as I know, there have been no complaints from Canada. I know people who were very, very distressed when the plant in Dekalb was shut down, because when they had a horse, or horses, that were going to be sold they preferred to haul them to Illinois in their own trailer and deliver them directly to the plant—that way they knew exactly how they were transported and handled—and they were very impressed by the facilities and the professionalism of the processors. Those of us in the livestock business have no illusions about the facts of life, or death, and we know the importance of ensuring that the slaughter process is as quick, painless, and stress free as possible. I personally would much prefer to ship horses to a processing plant here in the States where I know it is regulated and done right.


Were processing facilities to be opened in the United States, as I hope and pray that they do, I would hope that they would be built with the kind of facilities like those that have been developed with the assistance of Dr. Temple Grandin. Dr. Grandin is a designer of livestock handling facilities and a Professor of Animal Science at Colorado State University. Dr. Grandin’s designs have been widely incorporated into the beef and pork processing industries and have greatly improved the humane handling and welfare of livestock. There is no reason why the same principles could not be used for the processing of horses. (My note: Again I repeat, slaughter is NEVER humane and can NEVER BE made humane)


Ending the ability of horse owners to sell their unusable horses anywhere, or to transport them to places where they could be sold, is a huge and horrible mistake which in the end will only make a bad problem much, much worse. I do hope that I have caused you to consider the plight of so many of us who make our livings with horses from a different perspective, and I hope that you will contact me if you have any questions or concerns. This is of huge concern to rural America, to animal agriculture, to all facets of the equine industry, and to horse owners everywhere.


Most of all, we would greatly appreciate your restraint in promoting legislation that would further intensify the demise of the equine industry in the United States.


Sincerely,


Sue Wallis

Wyoming House of Representatives

Campbell County - District 52

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sue Wallis makes a lot of sense in her letter. I would tend to agree with her. She seemed to take the emotion out of the argument, which is pretty much all the animal rights people argue with. Thanks for sharing.

ProjectSpirit said...

This is such a controversial thing, no one wants a slaughter house for our precious horses, God knows I swore against them my whole life. They were ugly places.

Now they are gone, I am seeing the other side of this. We are seeing oceans of abandoned and ignored horses slowly starving to death because no one wants them and there is no place for them to go. The suffering is awful.

I have changed my idealistic attitude to wishing they could come back, but under better guide lines than we used to have. If they come back they will be kinder, more humane places. They have become famous, they will be closely monitored.
Bottom line is... these horses need a place to go. We can't all bury our unwanted horses in the back yard. A lot of people can't afford their rent, so their horses are neglected because the money is just not there for the vet or the feed store. The economy is in a mess, and only the big money places get the bail outs, the workers of America are left to fall on their faces, along with their animals.

I am appalled at the government evicting people from their homes, a tragedy for families, but much more so for their horses...they cannot keep them, no one wants them, so many are just left to starve to death.

Go to my website, we have only scraped the surface of the suffering, there are millions out there doing the same thing...go look at Cedar, and Bones, and Duzy...go look at them all, they have suffered horribly. I have a new motto, (NEVER thought I would say this) I have no problem with death, but I do with suffering. Better they are put down than left to let their bodies shrivel with hunger and a slow agonizing death.
Die they do...it all comes down to how.

Check out this site... www.amillionhorses.com

They give great info and facts.
Thanks for passing this one.
Regards, Nadine

   
www.projectspirit.org

Rhonda said...

Nadine is a brilliant woman -- willing to evaluate the true facts which are making themselves so obvious now that time has passed since the closing of the humanely regulated processing plants in the US,and shift her ideas and actions to reflect acceptance of reality.
Death is unavoidable . . . suffering is criminal; and well-intentioned but ill-informed animal activists have caused a lot of unnecessary suffering for the most noble animal on our planet.
www.amillionhorses.com offers unadulterated truth, take a look for yourself. May the faithful horse get relief . . . soon!
A lifelong horse breeder, trainer, rider and lover, Rhondarse

Anonymous said...

We are all seeing the suffering horses are going through in our neighborhoods, in pastures we drive by, and in the pictures of horses that Nadine and the other rescue organizations take in. There are not enough resources or rescues to handle all the old, lame, dangerous, and useless horses. The hay prices have certainly not helped this dilema, but it is not just the hay that makes it illogical to keep taking care of horses that are no longer rideable. It is all the care that they need such as worming, hoof care, teeth care, and vet care, not to mention manure removal. The older they get the more they need; they cannot just be put out in a pasture and ignored. The recession has made this problem worse as people's resources dwindle. We need a humane way of disposing of these animals and that was taken away from us when slaughtering horses was outlawed. Horse owners do not know what to do with them so they are feeding them the cheapest hay they can buy. Three horses down the street from me are being fed hay that isn't fit for a compost pile it is so full of mold. Yes, there are worse things that being dead and we are witnessing it.

Anonymous said...

Several points to be made. Slaughterhouses for horses MUST kill them quickly and mercifully. Most slaughterhouses are cruel beyond words. So #1 point: The slaughterhouses must be supervised.

2nd point: The Federal government should sterilize the wild horses by darting them from a helicopter not gathering them up. It would take a few years but we would then see a significant reduction in the numbers of wild horses.

3rd point: Too many people have "gotten into horses" out of greed and/or ignorance. The same types who bought a second house to "flip" and they got caught or who bought far more house than they could afford. Only in this instance they are dealing with magnificent animals who are wholly dependent on humans.

Anonymous said...

I was just out riding in a forested area 4 days ago and came across a horse skeleton. Looked like they cleaned out their trailer at the same time.
I too see the results of not being allowed to slaughter, the starving horses in this area stand in over 50% of the corrals.
I vote for slaughter to be allowed.

Jamie Cheslock said...

I am not selfish, nor do I fear death so no horse will suffer at the hands of my weaknesses.

That is the motto of my rescue called Horse/Animal Rescue Team (HART)

The thought of horses being slaughtered makes me sick to my stomach but the thought of them being shipped in overcrowded trucks to Mexico to be hung up by the back legs and skinned alive is even worse. America NEEDS humane slaughter houses that are REGULATED in every state.

The sad truth of the matter is that someone who has the stomach to work in a slaughter house can't necessarily always be the most compashionate type.

Think about it.

Butterfly Kiss said...

Over breeding has created the same problems for the horse that I have seen in the dog and cat world for some 30+ years of doing volunteer work. Of course horses are companion animals much like a German Shepherd or Lab that is a dog for the blind. Does that mean that they should be butchered at the end of a long life of service? No. We must all address this issue by changing with the current situation which is a poor economy and smaller resources. And humane menthods for putting a horse down exist, they are administered by your vet. Horses medicated with chems are not good food animals period.

Anonymous said...

This Sue W person is just a sickening person. Our humane society puts to sleep over 6 million dogs each year. To this Sue W. that must mean we should skin those dogs for coats and eat the dog meat?
What lies you spew Sue, all your 'facts' are distorted LIES.

Horses are NOT cows/cattle! To the majority of Americans (other than her family who seem to have a history of eating horses) we see and understand a horse is more similar to a dog than a cow.
Sue W. has set-up a 501c and taken donations, some I saw from the Frank Wallis ranch!! Then she uses those donations to go to washington and try to kill our companion animals in terrifing ways. Thats a scam and a huge waste of peoples donations!!
HEY SUE, why don't you try to help the poverty stricken horse owners with humane Euth. (on their own home) of their horses?? A trip to a slaughterhouse is a short ride to the corner horse-auction!! If people are to lazy to feed their horse (grass they eat for gods sake)to cheap to fork over 200.00 for humane euth from a Vet or a bullet and bury on their own 1,000 acre ranches. Then Sue you help them out with a humane death!!

And Sue it is not humane to use a slaughterhouse with companion animals!! Horses are NOT meat, no more than a DOG is meat!!
You Sue are so unamerican it is sickening to know you are trying to bring back the 1920s to America!!
SHAME ON YOU SUE W.

Suzanne said...

Sue Wallis makes NO sense in her letter. First, if slaughter were the answer to the "unwanted horse" problem, why isn't it working? We are shipping just as many, if not more, horses to slaughter right now as we were when there were plants in the US. ProjectSpirit - slaughter is NOT gone, it's just moved to Mexico and Canada. SO.... Slaughter CANNOT be the answer. If you REALLY care about horses you need to listen to ANYONE but Slaughterhouse Sue Wallis.

Sue lies when she says the people against horse slaughter are "radicals" that are against ALL animal ag. Most of us are not vegans, and don't ever intend to be. American horses are NOT food animals - period. Which also brings up the problem of drug residue because horses aren't raised with the restrictions that food animals are. They are exposed to many substances - bute being only one of about 55 - that render then permanently unsafe for people to eat.

Oh yeah, no one makes dog food out of horses any more for the same reasons. Even zoos don't use or want horse meat.

Sue Wallis seems to be the only one who wants to eat American horses. Personally, I think she's eaten too many bute laden horses burgers already!

ProjectSpirit said...

Interesting comments here, bet you gals who are condemning the re-opening of the slaughter houses are not out there picking up all of the abandoned horses that are slowly starving and freezing to death are you? Well I am, (and so are a lot of others,) actually it has taken over most of my life the last few years, know why? Because I love and adore horses, and watching them slowly die such horrific deaths that can take months to kill them..well, it only makes sense that a bullet is much better than that.
I wish to God people would be responsible for their animals, but there are those who have lost their homes and jobs and cannot feed their kids so horses are no longer an option. Then there are those who just don't give a damn because they can't make a buck so it is easier to walk away. There are thousands of horses out there in dire need and no person or cash fund to help them. Idealistic thoughts are great, just not real.
Horses no longer go to Canada, they have put so many paperwork rules against them, they cannot cross the border unless they have full records of their health and vaccinations and ownership. As abandoned horses do not have this, they all go south. They die by the hundreds going there you know, and the Mexicans treat horses a million times worse than we do. Your idealistic moves are making their lives soooo very much worse.
If you would like to truly make a difference, donate all of your money to one of the rescues that are trying to stay with it, I certainly could use the help..and so could the ones in your area...that is called putting your money where your mouth is...do the right thing and get involved, help end the misery all of our good intentions have caused. And lets get these awful slaughter houses re-opened, only lets make them easier to live with, my thoughts on that are just two things, never kill a horse in sight of another, and put video cameras in every room, open to the Internet, so you can be the watchdog and they know they are under observation, the American horse will thank you.
And no, I do not agree that eating our horses is a good one, so I am not a Sue Wallis junkie, I am a horse lover.
Nadine Hoy
www.projectspirit.org

Anonymous said...

This is a message for the severely misguided Nadine Hoy of ProjectSpirit, who parades as a horse rescuer but is pro-slaughter. You think Canada isn't killing horses? Are you daft? Fort MacLeod kills 300 horses PER DAY. We just got a shipment from North Dakota. And your comment that Mexicans are more cruel than Americans? So you're not just pro-slaughter but a racist too. Listen sweety, anyone who can kill an animal is cruel, regardless of nationality. Your ProjectSpirit is not much of a rescue if it's pro-slaughter, and you won't get any donations from me.

Anita Grace said...

You're an idiot, if you really look between the lines you will see what she is all she is is a corrupted greedy animal herself it's all about the money and the livestock I mean cattle so you don't know anything you're talking about